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    Player A and Player B

    Last year, in what most considered a great year for him, Player A hit .274/.388/.569 with 41 HR, 118 RBI, and 18 SB. He was touted as one of the best all-around offensive players in the game and made $13,571,428 for his services.

    This year, Player B is on pace to hit .270/.359/.569 with 45 HR, 108 RBI, and 14 SB. He makes $ 10,500,000 this year and is due $13,500,000 in 2008. He has been routinely criticized for his strikeouts, lack of effort, and underachieving.

    My question is this: If Player B continues at his current level of offensive production, wouldn't he be well worth the salary he is due next year?

    Discuss.
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    Re: Player A and Player B

    I have no idea who Player B is. Has he ever been discussed here before?
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    Re: Player A and Player B

    Player B doesn't have enough sacrifice fly's to warrant $13 million.
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    Re: Player A and Player B

    You forgot to mention that Player A was a GG CF and Player B was an iron glove LF.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Player A and Player B

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    My question is this: If Player B continues at his current level of offensive production, wouldn't he be well worth the salary he is due next year?

    Discuss.
    In all seriousness, I absolutely believe Player B would be well worth that salary.
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    Re: Player A and Player B

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    You forgot to mention that Player A was a GG CF and Player B was an iron glove LF.
    True dat. However, he's also older and more injury prone than Player B.
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    Re: Player A and Player B

    Quote Originally Posted by RichRed View Post
    In all seriousness, I absolutely believe Player B would be well worth that salary.
    I absolutely agree.
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    Re: Player A and Player B

    Quote Originally Posted by RichRed View Post
    I have no idea who Player B is. Has he ever been discussed here before?
    This is an utterly hypothetical situation. Any resemblence to real-life players is unintentional.
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    Re: Player A and Player B

    Player A's 2007 salary = 11.7% of his team's overall salary

    Player B's 2007 salary = 15.1% of his team's overall salary

    I bring this up because it's my way of saying "it depends."

    Is Player B worth ~$13M on the open market as a free agent? Easily... Is he worth that to a team that is 20th in MLB in salary? Dunno.

    If the other corresponding pieces were in place for a playoff run, then certainly it would be worth it, and thus, Player B's salary would be closer to the 11% than the 15% range.
    When all is said and done more is said than done.

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    Re: Player A and Player B

    Andruw Jones could be compared to both player A and B.. And I know he is going to get a huge contract even though he has had a down year.
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    Re: Player A and Player B

    Man, I loved Player A on my fantasy team last year.

    This year, not so much.
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    Re: Player A and Player B

    Quote Originally Posted by Heath View Post
    Man, I loved Player A on my fantasy team last year.

    This year, not so much.
    He's playing on a bad quad, or so he says. He's getting some media/talk show criticism for being a 'soft' player. But it's tempered by the fact that his team is in first place.

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    Re: Player A and Player B

    Positions are very key for those stats though. Player A was easily the best hitter at his position last year and probably one of the top defenders there as well. Player B was not the best hitter at his position and is at the bottom of the defensive ladder at his position. Player A plays a very important defensive position. Player B does not.

    Huge difference.

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    Re: Player A and Player B

    Quote Originally Posted by RedLegSuperStar View Post
    Andruw Jones could be compared to both player A and B.. And I know he is going to get a huge contract even though he has had a down year.
    I think Jones' year is more than "down" - it's full blown depression and may require counseling!

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    Re: Player A and Player B

    I would probably support a trade of player B for a good return. But I agree that if he keeps up this rate he will be worth his 2008 salary. He is having a great offensive year.

    But -- player B is prone to slumps and it is far from certain he will keep up this pace.

    And even if you pay player B for next year, then what? He is a pending FA then, with trade restrictions. Unless Reds keep him just for next year's World Series run.


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