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    How long before Krivsky is next?

    I read on the ORG today that Krivsky is signed thru 2007, with 2008 and 2009 options. The club has exercised the 2008 option last year, but I am beginning to wonder if he will last through this year. He is largely responsible for putting the team together, with the possible exception of Griffey. I believe the possibility of him holding onto his job is now largely dependent on how the new manager does. If the new manager can have the team playing at .500 or even better the rest of this season, he may have 1 year to keep his job. A lot will also depend on who he does at the trading deadline. He needs to make good trades at the deadline and not get nothing like he did in The Trade. Bray started out well but got injured, and Majewski has been worthless. I hope the minor league pitcher will be good, but so far we haven't had much of a return from that trade.A good manager might be able to save Krivsky's job for 1 more year, and he better hope that is the case.

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    Re: How long before Krivsky is next?

    Quote Originally Posted by AmarilloRed View Post
    I read on the ORG today that Krivsky is signed thru 2007, with 2008 and 2009 options. The club has exercised the 2008 option last year, but I am beginning to wonder if he will last through this year. He is largely responsible for putting the team together, with the possible exception of Griffey. I believe the possibility of him holding onto his job is now largely dependent on how the new manager does. If the new manager can have the team playing at .500 or even better the rest of this season, he may have 1 year to keep his job. A lot will also depend on who he does at the trading deadline. He needs to make good trades at the deadline and not get nothing like he did in The Trade. Bray started out well but got injured, and Majewski has been worthless. I hope the minor league pitcher will be good, but so far we haven't had much of a return from that trade.A good manager might be able to save Krivsky's job for 1 more year, and he better hope that is the case.
    I'm hoping Bob C makes decisions based on more than what record an interim manager generates with a team that is about to go through massive personnel changes.

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    Re: How long before Krivsky is next?

    Hopefully not long..

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    I hope Castellini gives a GM more than 1 offseason to prove himself. Especially when it's a franchise with a long losing trend and a medium-sized payroll.
    Last edited by durl; 07-02-2007 at 02:56 PM.

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    Hopefully a very long time. If the Reds fire WK anytime before 4 years, then the team will have no chance to hire a decent GM. What good GM would come to an organization that would only give one off season to perform after 7 straight losing seasons. I feel that patience is best with WK, give him the 4 years it takes to build an organization. But at that 4 year mark, we better have a winning season and handfuls of prospects at each level. If not, then fire him immediately. Not a second before nor a second later.

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    Re: How long before Krivsky is next?

    let him hire his own manager and see what happens....i can tell you all right now
    we wont get much for either Griffey or Dunn...so dont expect much if either are traded

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    Re: How long before Krivsky is next?

    Quote Originally Posted by EddieMilner View Post
    Hopefully a very long time. If the Reds fire WK anytime before 4 years, then the team will have no chance to hire a decent GM. What good GM would come to an organization that would only give one off season to perform after 7 straight losing seasons. I feel that patience is best with WK, give him the 4 years it takes to build an organization. But at that 4 year mark, we better have a winning season and handfuls of prospects at each level. If not, then fire him immediately. Not a second before nor a second later.
    Exactly!!! If Castellini were to fire Krivsky after a little over a year on the job then he would have an extremely hard time finding someone of quality to replace him. No current GM or wanna be GM would waste there time with an owner as impatient as that.

    I agree that patience is the key with Krivsky, I liked his hire simply because he comes from an organization (Twins) that I believe the Reds need to model themselves after.

    I just hope that Krivsky is spending as much time on the other aspects of the Reds such as the scouting department and player development. Having a competant scouting department and a minor league system that is capable of developing the players should be focused on just as much as any other aspect of this organization. Bottom line is build a winner from within!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by George Anderson View Post
    Exactly!!! If Castellini were to fire Krivsky after a little over a year on the job then he would have an extremely hard time finding someone of quality to replace him. No current GM or wanna be GM would waste there time with an owner as impatient as that.

    I agree that patience is the key with Krivsky, I liked his hire simply because he comes from an organization (Twins) that I believe the Reds need to model themselves after.

    I just hope that Krivsky is spending as much time on the other aspects of the Reds such as the scouting department and player development. Having a competant scouting department and a minor league system that is capable of developing the players should be focused on just as much as any other aspect of this organization. Bottom line is build a winner from within!!!!
    If Bob C were to fire Krivsky then his only choice would be go Steinbrenner, and shell out big bucks to bring in several key free agents. Throwing money at the problem rather than letting Krivsky solve the problem with some time. I don't think Bob C will throw money around so they only option is to let Krivsky try and right the ship or we can just add a couple of more seasons to the length we will have to wait for a real winner.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again. I don't want a competitive team or a division championship. I want to see a team that gets to the world series. I don't care who the players are just that they play for cincinnati.

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    Re: How long before Krivsky is next?

    Based on Krivsky's first two drafts with the Reds I don't have much confidence in his ability to build from within.

    If he can convince Castellini he is trying to build from within, that alone should buy him a couple more years at least.

    The fact is the Reds have taken a nosedive under Krivsky's tenure. His good moves (Arroyo, Phillips, Hamilton) have been crushed by the weight of his bad moves.

    A prospective candidate to be the next GM wouldn't decline the job simply because Krivsky didn't last long. You can't blame Castellini for firing the GM of the worst team in all of baseball. If you come in dead last in MLB you expect to be fired. I think a bright young GM would relish the opportunity to build a team from scratch with his own philosophy. I know I would.

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    Krivsky's short-term fate will be decided based upon how he handles the upcoming trade deadline. Nothing more, nothing less. The record for the rest of the year matters not. It's all about 08 & 09 now. It's always about next year with this franchise. Only now there's a shot if the young talent pans out.

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    Re: How long before Krivsky is next?

    Quote Originally Posted by AtomicDumpling View Post
    Based on Krivsky's first two drafts with the Reds I don't have much confidence in his ability to build from within.
    Dont ya think it is kinda hard to judge the outcome of a draft that is less than a month old???
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    Re: How long before Krivsky is next?

    Quote Originally Posted by George Anderson View Post
    Dont ya think it is kinda hard to judge the outcome of a draft that is less than a month old???
    Drew. Stubbs.

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    Re: How long before Krivsky is next?

    Quote Originally Posted by George Anderson View Post
    Dont ya think it is kinda hard to judge the outcome of a draft that is less than a month old???
    Yes it is. You are right. But in my personal opinion it was a letdown. There are other teams that got exciting players that are near sure things. We didn't.

    Last year's draft hasn't produced any exciting prospects yet either. The first round pick was hitting .240 in low A ball the last I checked.

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    Re: How long before Krivsky is next?

    Krivsky should be canned based on arrogance alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by REDblooded View Post
    Krivsky should be canned based on arrogance alone.
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