That's just dumb. I think everyone on FSN and WLW is required by contract to get excited everytime Phil Dumatrait is mentioned. If he was black, maybe you could attribute it to some bizzare form of restitution, but he's not, so I have no reasonable explanation. The guy is not a good pitcher and unless something wierd happens, will never be a passable major league starter. A K:BB ratio of 1.35 at AAA does not translate to major league success.Here is what I do. Livingston and Dumatrait are brought up to the big club. Dumatrait is inserted in Belisle's slot and Livingston pitches long relief.
Why replace Belisle? Unless I made a mistake, which isn't all that unlikely I guess, Belisle's DIPS ERA is sitting at a tidy 4.55 right now. His ERA's a little higher, but his peripherals are darn solid for a back rotation starter. He's also still pretty young and has good stuff leading me to believe that his cieling is not yet reached.
Last edited by paintmered; 07-04-2007 at 02:06 AM. Reason: Explicit reference
Agreed. Belisle should be penned (not penciled) in for the #5 starter for the next three years.
If things pan out as planned, Harang, Arroyo, Bailey, and Cueto will occupy those other four spots for the said time frame.
Matt Belisle is a better pitcher then both Livingston and Dumatrait. In fact, I'd rather see Gardner or Ramirez up here before Livingston or Dumatrait. The reason everyone likes them is because they are left handed, but that doesn't change that they are not good.
Replacing Belisle with either of them would be a horrible move by the Reds.
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I like Benihana's idea... I think this could work.
I think Belisle is perfect for long relief and spot starts. I just don't think he's quite good enough to be a #3 or #4 starter. Maybe a #5 starter, but I'd rather have someone with a higher ceiling there.
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Over the course of the rest of 2007, there's a slew of guys in AAA and AA who should get some sort of audition at the big league level.
2007 is over, 2008 doesn't look good, so let's look ahead to 2009.
In AAA he can:
1. Have his work and pitch load managed w/o regard to a the game sutuation as much and get to the 170 to 175 inning level that the natural development course calls for in 2007.
2. Work on his command and secondary stuff.
3. Provide a major league spot to look at others who require a more immediate cut bait decision by the end of spring, 2008 (options and all) like Livingston, Dumatrait and EZ.
4. Stop accumulating service time while accomplishing the above. He's had his taste. He can come back up in 2008 (maybe September if he hasn't pushed his upper inning limit) with a better array of pitches (I hope) and a better physical preparation for his role.
I'd like to push the timeline forward and get his "lump taking period" out of the way in this lost season, but there is still plenty more to do in AAA IMO and it has nothing to do with proving himself statistically. It has more to do with refinement and physical preparation. 2008 is his year to take his lumps in the majors with hopefully 2009 his year to take off.
Last edited by mth123; 07-04-2007 at 05:32 AM.
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What is the opinion on EZ. Is he out of the picture for the future???
I'd love to see Keppinger up here instead of Castro, but I see no evidence that Keppinger can play short, and having your starting 2B be your only backup SS (and an iffy one at that) seems a little dicey to me.
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