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    Re: Insane trade ideas

    Reds trade: Ken Griffey
    Reds receive: Tony LaRussa

    Reds trade: Scott Hatteberg
    Reds receive: Rich Aurilia

    Reds trade: Edwin Encarnacion, Adam Dunn, and Todd Coffey
    Reds receive: Christian Guzman, Josh Wilson, Jon Rauch, Arnie Munoz, and Robert Almonte

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    Re: Insane trade ideas

    Not sure if its insane or not but the Tigers could use a couple of role players and have a few fringe low dollar guys that they have no room for.

    How about Mike Stanton and Juan Castro for Zach Miner? Miner can go into the mix for 5th Starter and Long Relief and the Reds are out from under Stanton for 2008.

    For the Tigers Stanton gives them a lefty with playoff experince who can simply fill a lefty role with Jones and the returning Zumaya and Rodney ahead of him. The Tigers don't seem to be age averse with Jones and having given Jose Mesa a shot. Castro replaces his injured soul mate Niefi Perez. (The Tigers probably really wouldn't want Castro but Stanton for Miner makes some sense for both teams.)
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    Re: Insane trade ideas

    Sick in bed this week-end so I have too much time to think about stuff like this. Here is a slightly different direction regarding Adam Dunn.

    Washington will be opening a new park in 2008 and will probably want to make a bit of a splash to create some excitement. We all know that Bowden probably values Dunn more than most GMs and would probably be willing to work out a multi-year deal as part of a trade. Many have pointed out that the Reds probably won't get top prospects for an expensive rental player, so how about this suggestion?

    Adam Dunn (and some stuff - see below) to Washington for Chad Cordero, Ryan Church and Brian Schneider. Cordero is in Arb and is probably getting a little expensive and Schneider is signed for the next couple of years at about $4 Million per year, so the Nats aren't taking on as much Salary as a deal involving Dunn for prospects would be. Washington has Rauch and Colome for the back end of games and Jesus Flores a young 22 year old catcher that they like to take over for Schneider.

    The Reds are vastly improved in the pen and at the catcher spot by the deal and Church provides a competent OF back in return for Dunn. The Reds could throw in one of the young arms to try in the middle of Washington's pen (say Salmon or even Guevara if they want a prospect - maybe they'd take Majewski back) and they could have Moeller or Javy to serve as a back-up catcher for the rest of the year.

    The Reds could then turn around and deal Ross to the Cubs who are hurting for a catcher, with Weathers for a couple young arms like Mike Wuertz and Carlos Marmol.

    Next deal Griffey to the Braves for Yunel Escobar and Joey Devine (since Salty and Matt Harrison are probably not available).

    With Escobar at SS, deal Gonzalez back to the Red Sox who feel that they have a problem to solve at SS for a young arm like Manny Del Carmen (Buckholz and Lester are probably not avaialble but the arm doesn't matter as much as getting out from under Gonzalez deal at this point).

    In another thread Jo Jo suggested Kyle Lohse to Seattle for Wladimir Balentien and that would be a great deal and Seattle just might do that.

    Stanton, Hatte, Freel and Conine for best young arms available.

    Use all the free cash to sign a big time starting pitcher (I want Zambrano).


    2009 Reds after all this hypothetical movement:

    Line-up
    Hamilton CF
    Encarnacion 3B
    Bruce RF
    Votto 1B
    Church/Balentein LF
    Phillips 2B
    Escobar SS
    Schneider C

    Bench
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    Keppinger IF
    Pedro Lopez IF
    Tatum C

    Rotation
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    Acquisition (I want Zambrano)
    Arroyo
    Bailey
    Cueto/Belisle/Fisher/Lecure/Gardner/Gosling

    Bullpen
    Cordero CL
    Bray
    Wuertz
    Marmol
    Devine
    Coutlangus
    Coffey
    Best of the failed starters or McBeth, Roenicke, Medlock, Pelland, other acquisitions, etc.

    If the prospects work out that team could compete, if not, there should be enough free cash to sign a cheap vet or two along the lines of Hatte and enough arms to cover for injuries or possibly use in trade.
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    Re: Insane trade ideas

    -Reds trade OF Ken Griffey Jr. to the Braves for SS Yunel Escobar and either LHP Matt Harrison or RHP Joey Devine.

    -Reds trade OF Adam Dunn to the Angels for RHP Nick Adenhart, LHP Joe Saunders, and C Jeff Mathis.

    -Reds trade 1B Scott Hatteberg to the Yankees for RHP Alan Horne.

    -Reds trade RHP David Weathers to the Indians for LHP Tony Sipp and OF John Drennen.

    -Reds trade RHP Kyle Lohse to the Rockies for OF Dexter Fowler.

    Attempt to deal Mike Stanton and Jeff Conine if possible.

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    Re: Insane trade ideas

    Here are a few other potential trades I like:

    -Reds trade 3B Edwin Encarnacion to the Twins for RHP Kevin Slowey.

    -Reds trade OF Adam Dunn and RHP Kyle Lohse to the Padres for 3B Chase Headley, OF Chad Huffman, and one of OF Cedric Hunter/2B Matt Antonelli/C Nick Hundley.

    -Reds trade RHP David Weathers and OF Ken Griffey Jr. to the Braves for SS Yunel Escobar, RHP Joey Devine, and LHP Matt Harrison. I would love to recieve C Jarrod Saltalamacchia in return but I doubt if the Braves will part with him.

    The Reds lose a lot of talent in these trades, however, they also gain a ton of major league ready talent.

    Chase Headley could step right in for Edwin Encarnacion at 3B right now. Headley is a switch-hitter with good power and a great eye at the plate. Chad Huffman is an underrated prospect much like Jason Bay was when he was with San Diego. The third player is a choice of who the Reds like: The high potential (but 3-4 years from majors) Hunter, a solid backstop in Hundley or my favorite, Matt Antonelli who has been switched to 2nd base this year. Huffman should be ready by sometime next year to take over the spot in LF and provide the Reds with some RH pop.

    In the Twins trade, I hate to deal away Encarnacion as he is one of my favorites, but Headley makes him expendable. Plus Kevin Slowey is one of the better pitching prospects in the game. He could step in right now and put up solid numbers. His stuff suggests he has a chance to be a number two starter in the bigs.

    In the Braves deal the Reds lose Griffey and Weathers. I would love to have Saltalamacchia but I just don't see the Braves dealing him. So in sticking with a more realistic deal, the Reds receieve major league ready SS Yunel Escobar, RHP Joey Devine who could step right in to the Reds bullpen, and polished lefty Matt Harrison, who profiles as a number three starter down the road.

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    Re: Insane trade ideas

    Why not..


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    Reds: Andre Ethier, D.J. Houlton, and Giuseppe Norrito

    Twins: Adam Dunn and Cash
    Reds: Matt Garza

    Braves: David Weathers
    Reds: Yunel Escobar

    Mariners: Kyle Lohse
    Reds: Wladimir Balentien

    Yankees: Scott Hatteberg and
    Reds: Alan Horne
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    Re: Insane trade ideas

    I have a hard time believing the Mariners would deal a top 10, major league ready prospect like Wladimir Balentien for Kyle Lohse.
    Last edited by Benihana; 07-17-2007 at 01:27 PM.
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    Re: Insane trade ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    I have a hard time believing the Mariners would deal a top 10, major league ready prospect like Wladimir Balentien for Kyle Lohse.
    Not, these are INSANE trade ideas...so why not!
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    Re: Insane trade ideas

    Acquisition (I want Zambrano)
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    Re: Insane trade ideas

    Weathers to the Red Sox for Michael Bowden. This town needs a Bowden after all.

    Stanton back to the Braves for Matt Harrison or Brent Lillibridge

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    Re: Insane trade ideas

    In all seriousness, is a Dunn for Garza trade really plausible? What I mean is, would the Twins really do it? I think personally with their pitching staff plus Liriano, I think they could afford to trade him away for a power hitting DH. I would throw in a guy like Wood if needed.
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    Re: Insane trade ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by 11larkin11 View Post
    In all seriousness, is a Dunn for Garza trade really plausible? What I mean is, would the Twins really do it? I think personally with their pitching staff plus Liriano, I think they could afford to trade him away for a power hitting DH. I would throw in a guy like Wood if needed.
    I would too.. I actually was going back and forth with adding Wood to the deal I proposed
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    Re: Insane trade ideas

    Reds trade: David Ross's fixed, mannequin-like lower half batting stance
    Reds receive: Hal Morris' "wicket-defending happy feet" batting stance

    Reds trade: Farney
    Reds receive: Elixir of "Smart Baserunning" concocted by the great wizard "B'ar Eeb Onds"

    Reds trade: Adam Dunn
    Reds receive: Cy Young

    Reds trade: Adam Dunn
    Reds receive: no one, he struck out

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    Re: Insane trade ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by nate View Post
    Reds trade: David Ross's fixed, mannequin-like lower half batting stance
    Reds receive: Hal Morris' "wicket-defending happy feet" batting stance

    Reds trade: Farney
    Reds receive: Elixir of "Smart Baserunning" concocted by the great wizard "B'ar Eeb Onds"

    Reds trade: Adam Dunn
    Reds receive: Cy Young

    Reds trade: Adam Dunn
    Reds receive: no one, he struck out


    TOTALLY INSANE!!!!!
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    Re: Insane trade ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by RedLegSuperStar View Post
    I would too.. I actually was going back and forth with adding Wood to the deal I proposed
    I would try very hard not to trade Cueto or Wood in any deal. The Reds need to improve their pitching significantly and should try hard to add without any subtraction. I want to see them take two steps forward and stop, not two steps forward and one back.

    BTW, Minnesota and California may be the most logical destinations for Dunn, but those two teams have the two GM's least likely to gamble their prospects. I remember Ryan dealing Bobby Keilty for Shannon Stewart a few years ago, but I can't remember any other trades.
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