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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo View Post
    I wouldn't be so quick to assume that. 1st off you assume that father time will continue to be nice to "the natural", at some point that will no longer be the case, and it could happen at any time. 2nd Fedor hasn't just competed and won in Pride and other stops, but he has pretty much dominated. He has beat a lot of world class wrestler's granted none as talented as Randy but dispatched of them fairly easily.

    He can stand and fight with the best of them, both with hands and feet. He is an excellent submissionist and has very good submission defense. And all of that is not taking into account his freak strength, agility and conditioning for a guy who doesn't appear to be all that conditioned. Having said all that Couture would be the best he's ever fought by a landslide and it would certainly be a match for the ages. But I wouldn't be so quick to assume Randy could wear him down and/or rip through him.
    Anything can happen in a fight, but between Emelianenko and Couture, it looks like time's catching up with Emelianenko faster.

    Lack of competition has got to be affecting Fedor too. In the past year he's beaten a novelty (Choi) and a middleweight (Lindland). Neither of his 2006 opponents (Mark Hunt and Mark Coleman) have been back in the ring since those fights.

    So the two might be well advised to get in the ring before they become yesterday's news.
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    Re: UFC Discussion

    Pretty huge news. CBS has announced they're bringing in EXC's brand of MMA.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns

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    Love to see MMA going more mainstream but I dont know how well it will fare on CBS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kbrake View Post
    Love to see MMA going more mainstream but I dont know how well it will fare on CBS.
    My take is Elite XC is the XFL of MMA. Maybe they'll get a one-time pop, but I suspect it won't win over many converts and that people who actually like the sport will recognize it as a deficient product.
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    Re: UFC Discussion

    If I want to watch a couple of guys with no shirts on fight I hang out at the convenience store on Saturday night.

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    Geez what a card last night and some interesting developments. I was pretty floored to see Evans take out Griffin. I knew it was possible what with Evans power and explosiveness but figured Griffin had the chin to handle it. Was glad to see Rampage get a much needed win and in grand fashion. Mir taking out Big Nog was a bit surprising as well.


    But aside from the actual outcomes I saw a lot of questionable (and some not so questionable) acts of classlessness from the winners. Evans tap of his crotch at Griffin, Rampage striking Silva not once but 3 times after he was obviously out (1 I could have understood) and Mir's cockiness on display with his disrespect of Lesnar.

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    Rashad Evans is the definition of classless, and I can't wait to see him get knocked off. Of course, it all depends who the UFC wants to give a title shot to.

    I do think the winner of Machida and Silva could knock off Evans without much problem. Unfortunately, if it's Machida then we'd be stuck with the prospect of a a relatively boring fight that would end in a decision, because Machida's style is just tactical advantages. He'd just score points and stay away from danger. It would work in getting rid of Evans, but the fans would be frustrated.
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    Was all geared up last night to watch my first MMA/UFC ass-kicking event with a group of buddies (who are all fans).

    Time Warner Cable did everything they could to prevent us from seeing it.

    Ended up watching The Dark Knight instead.
    a super volcano of ridonkulous suckitude.

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    Wow, how much of this hatred for Evans is because of the love for Forrest? I'm a huge Forrest fan. I am disappointed in Forrest a bit, not for the performance but for the ending, he was attempting to tap from strikes???????? THATS NOT FORREST'S STYLE! haha dont get me wrong I'm not saying that I wouldnt be tapping

    I did not find Evans classless at all. Forrest has also dared people to hit him and he doesnt get ripped for that. Almost all fighters are cocky...especially the unbeaten ones. Its one of the reasons they are good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orodle View Post
    Wow, how much of this hatred for Evans is because of the love for Forrest? I'm a huge Forrest fan. I am disappointed in Forrest a bit, not for the performance but for the ending, he was attempting to tap from strikes???????? THATS NOT FORREST'S STYLE! haha dont get me wrong I'm not saying that I wouldnt be tapping

    I did not find Evans classless at all. Forrest has also dared people to hit him and he doesnt get ripped for that. Almost all fighters are cocky...especially the unbeaten ones. Its one of the reasons they are good.
    Evans disrespectful act of tapping his crotch was just the straw that broke the camels back for me. I like Griffin alot but I was not amused with Evans act at the end of the Liddell fight either I took that to mean disrespect to his opponent but I wasn't sure. He had always shown a bit of a chip on his shoulder which is fine but he had never shown a lack of class that I can recall. 2 fights in a row now he has shown behavior unbecoming of a champion IMO.
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    Rashad Evans is the definition of classless, and I can't wait to see him get knocked off. Of course, it all depends who the UFC wants to give a title shot to.

    I do think the winner of Machida and Silva could knock off Evans without much problem. Unfortunately, if it's Machida then we'd be stuck with the prospect of a a relatively boring fight that would end in a decision, because Machida's style is just tactical advantages. He'd just score points and stay away from danger. It would work in getting rid of Evans, but the fans would be frustrated.
    I haven't seen much of Machida actually for whatever reason it seems he and I are playing t.v. tag, neither of us is there when the other is. Silva seems too diverse not to beat him and just as explosive as Evans. My guess is Evans couldn't consistently get close enough to bring his odds up of landing a K.O. punch. Silva probably cuts him down with kicks and lots of movement.

    *Oops wrong Silva, I was thinking Anderson for some reason. I forgot that Anderson's forray was 1 fight into the 205 lb division.
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    Re: UFC Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    If I want to watch a couple of guys with no shirts on fight I hang out at the convenience store on Saturday night.
    Much more to the sport than that. That's like saying with baseball... If I want to watch some guy scratch and adjust himself, I'll look in the mirror. JMO

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    Rashad's become the villain by wiping out the UFC's darlings Chuck and Forrest. It makes for a compelling story line. In some ways he's the new Jack Johnson. I expect him to mow through the rest of the division over the next year and set up a mega-fight with the Spider.
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    ^ Agreed, as far as his becoming a villain by wiping those two out. I find Evans' act hilarious; he's just channeling some "character" to become a star. It's worked, hasn't it? He was just a "reality show guy" nobody cared about a few months ago, but with his destructions of Liddell and Griffin, he's public enemy #1 in MMA. Well, he and Brock "the WWF guy" Lesnar, who also understands how to make people care about your fight and how to make people want to pay to see you lose.

    Re: Lyoto Machida, I, for one, love watching him fight, but then again, I'm a nerd for expertly technical striking. I can see where he's boring to some observers, but his defense and foot movement is art to me.

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    I've actually never cared for Evans since he was on TUF. I'm also indifferent on Liddell and Griffin too. It's actually kind of strange because while I don't care for Evans' act, I always though Tito Ortiz was a hoot.

    I would like to see Machida get a title shot if he beats Silva (and for Silva to get a title shot if he beats Machida). Like Javy, I don't mind watching Machida fight, but I do know a great deal of more casual MMA fans can't stand the guy. Nevertheless, he's extremely effective with his style and he's winning fights. If he beats Silva, he deserves the title shot, IMO.
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