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    7/6/07 Reds vs Diamondbacks

    Per C. Trent.

    D-Backs
    Young cf
    Hudson 2b
    Byrnes lf
    Tracy 3b
    Jackson 1b
    Drew ss
    Snyder c
    Salazar rf
    Owings p

    Reds
    Hamilton cf
    Phillips 2b
    Griffey rf
    Dunn lf
    Hatteberg 1b
    Encarnacion 3b
    Gonzalez ss
    Ross c
    Lohse p

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    Re: 7/6/07 Reds vs Diamondbacks

    Flip Encarnacion with Phillips and
    Ross with Gonzalez and you've got my favorite lineup.
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    Re: 7/6/07 Reds vs Diamondbacks

    Pete is doing the unthinkable...hitting 3 lefties in a row.

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    Re: 7/6/07 Reds vs Diamondbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by BRM View Post
    Pete is doing the unthinkable...hitting 3 lefties in a row.

    That's unpossible!

    I like to see Josh hitting leadoff. Gives him more at bats and I think he needs those for the future.
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    Re: 7/6/07 Reds vs Diamondbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    That's unpossible!
    It's inheard of!

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    Re: 7/6/07 Reds vs Diamondbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by BRM View Post
    Pete is doing the unthinkable...hitting 3 lefties in a row.
    Obviously, he has ever read "The Book".

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    Re: 7/6/07 Reds vs Diamondbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by oneupper View Post
    Flip Encarnacion with Phillips and
    Ross with Gonzalez and you've got my favorite lineup.
    Same.
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    Re: 7/6/07 Reds vs Diamondbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by oneupper View Post
    Flip Encarnacion with Phillips and
    Ross with Gonzalez and you've got my favorite lineup.
    Why?

    Phillips is better than EE and Gonzalez is better than Ross.

    Better hitters should get more AB's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    Why?

    Phillips is better than EE and Gonzalez is better than Ross.

    Better hitters should get more AB's.

    I disagree with the first part of the assessment. EdE's OBP is 40 pts higher than BPs -this year- and despite the bad start. EdE works counts better than Phillips and is less likely to give the pitcher an easy out.
    Furthermore, with Griff behind him, he's like to see better pitches and probably would increase his power numbers.
    BP is such a free swinger, I don't think he requires as much "protection".
    As for speed, Encarnación is plenty fast if given the chance.


    As for Gonzalez and Ross, the 8 position is a tough one to hit in.
    So if you're going to choose between two bad hitters, I take the one that who handles pitches outside the zone better and put him in the 8 spot.
    That's Gonzalez

    In addition, it's nice to have a guy in the 8 slot who can actually score on a single from second (after the pitcher bunts him over). Gonzalez again.

    Third, your main pinch hitter is a catcher (for better or worse). It's nice to put SOME space between your regular catcher and the pitcher, for those wonderful double switches.

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    Re: 7/6/07 Reds vs Diamondbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by oneupper View Post
    I disagree with the first part of the assessment. EdE's OBP is 40 pts higher than BPs -this year- and despite the bad start. EdE works counts better than Phillips and is less likely to give the pitcher an easy out.
    Furthermore, with Griff behind him, he's like to see better pitches and probably would increase his power numbers.
    BP is such a free swinger, I don't think he requires as much "protection".
    As for speed, Encarnación is plenty fast if given the chance.


    Before this season, I would have agreed with you. But this year, Phillips has been head and shoulders better than EE. EE may get on base a bit more, but Phillips power numbers indicate I want him AB more than EE.

    Gonzalez is simply better than Ross this year. It's no comparison.

    The better hitters should get more AB's.

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    Re: 7/6/07 Reds vs Diamondbacks

    Facing Micha Owings from The Tulane University tonight.

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    Re: 7/6/07 Reds vs Diamondbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by oneupper View Post
    I disagree with the first part of the assessment. EdE's OBP is 40 pts higher than BPs -this year- and despite the bad start. EdE works counts better than Phillips and is less likely to give the pitcher an easy out.
    Furthermore, with Griff behind him, he's like to see better pitches and probably would increase his power numbers.
    BP is such a free swinger, I don't think he requires as much "protection".
    As for speed, Encarnación is plenty fast if given the chance.


    As for Gonzalez and Ross, the 8 position is a tough one to hit in.
    So if you're going to choose between two bad hitters, I take the one that who handles pitches outside the zone better and put him in the 8 spot.
    That's Gonzalez

    In addition, it's nice to have a guy in the 8 slot who can actually score on a single from second (after the pitcher bunts him over). Gonzalez again.

    Third, your main pinch hitter is a catcher (for better or worse). It's nice to put SOME space between your regular catcher and the pitcher, for those wonderful double switches.

    Just my .05
    Very well said Oneupper, I agree 100%.

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    Re: 7/6/07 Reds vs Diamondbacks

    I've got a feeling Freel isnt going to like this Mackanin character...
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    Re: 7/6/07 Reds vs Diamondbacks

    Looks like they have one lefty in the pen.

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    Re: 7/6/07 Reds vs Diamondbacks

    I am liking the cut of Mackanin's gib. I really am. Heeding OBP. Not being freaked out by the concept of putting his best hitters together, even if they bat left-handed, funny and informative in his press availabilities.

    All pretty good stuff.

    Good for him.


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