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    Failed relievers who become starters

    I remember Ted Power made the move successfully. Any others?

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    Re: Failed relievers who become starters

    Braden Looper, although it's hard to say how successful that's been. I guess he's been okay.

    I'm sure there are some that I'm forgetting.

    Smoltz went from starter to closer to starter with much success.

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    Re: Failed relievers who become starters

    Derek Lowe.
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    Re: Failed relievers who become starters

    Pedro Martinez, Johan Santana, and I believe Carlos Silva was a reliever for Philly before coming to the Twins. George Culver and Don Gullett. Actually, it was a pretty common practice for pitchers to cut their teeth in the bullpen until the 1980's, or there about.
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    Re: Failed relievers who become starters

    Quote Originally Posted by Spitball View Post
    Pedro Martinez, Johan Santana, and I believe Carlos Silva was a reliever for Philly before coming to the Twins. George Culver and Don Gullett. Actually, it was a pretty common practice for pitchers to cut their teeth in the bullpen until the 1980's, or there about.
    I think there's a difference between being a failed reliever and what Johan Santana did. They just wanted to get him some experience in the bullpen before having him open it up from the 1st inning.

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    Re: Failed relievers who become starters

    Quote Originally Posted by Spitball View Post
    Pedro Martinez, Johan Santana, and I believe Carlos Silva was a reliever for Philly before coming to the Twins. George Culver and Don Gullett. Actually, it was a pretty common practice for pitchers to cut their teeth in the bullpen until the 1980's, or there about.
    Roy Oswalt would be in that club too, though I don't think he would be considered a "failed" reliver?

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    Re: Failed relievers who become starters

    Right, I pretty much missed the "failed" stipulation in the title.
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    Re: Failed relievers who become starters

    I believe the Cardinals are 7-1 in games started by failed reliever Todd Wellemeyer, but the jury is still out that experiment.
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    Re: Failed relievers who become starters

    Not sure if you'd call him "failed", but Houston traded away Curt Schilling to Philly for Jason Grimsley after a few mediocre seasons as a reliever. He was tagged as a classic power reliever who lacked the control necessary to succeed as a starter.
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    Re: Failed relievers who become starters

    Kinda hard to define this category since the vast majority of relievers are failed starters. It's rather rare in baseball for someone to be a reliever throughout the minors, flop at the big league level as a reliever, and then make a comeback as a starter. Todd Wellemeyer actually put up decent peripheral stats as a starter in the Cubs system before getting called up as a reliever.


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