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    Quote Originally Posted by flyer85 View Post
    and it is a highly likely that what Bruce will do at 21 won't compare with what Dunn did at 21 in AA and AAA.
    Why do you say that? Bruce looks to me like a young J.D. Drew, not a young Dunn. And as much I like Dunn, he ain't J.D. Drew.

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    Well for starters Jay wont spend a game in AA as a 21 year old. The more I think about it the more I wonder how much time he will even spend in AAA as a 21 year old. Its going to be real hard to try and compare the two a year from now as 21 year olds when Jay is going to be at completely different levels than Adam Dunn was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    Why do you say that? Bruce looks to me like a young J.D. Drew, not a young Dunn. And as much I like Dunn, he ain't J.D. Drew.
    Good thing Dunn isn't Drew and I sure hope Bruce isn't either. I hope they don't rush him either. His ETA is some time in 2008 and taking over as the regular RF in 2009. Bruce will likely hit for a higher average with less power than Dunn. He still has work to do in the minors.

    The numbers Bruce is putting up are very similar to what Kearns and Dunn were doing in the minors. The question on those guys was where did the ability to hit for a higher average go? I think rushing them both to the majors did neither a favor. The pitching is exponentially tougher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Well for starters Jay wont spend a game in AA as a 21 year old. The more I think about it the more I wonder how much time he will even spend in AAA as a 21 year old. Its going to be real hard to try and compare the two a year from now as 21 year olds when Jay is going to be at completely different levels than Adam Dunn was.
    Dunn spent 2 months in AAA at age 21. It seems likely Bruce will spend at least 2 months there in 2008 when he is 21.

    BTW, Dunn put up almost the exact same numbers in AA and AAA. The Reds should hope for the same from Bruce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyer85 View Post
    Good thing Dunn isn't Drew and I sure hope Bruce isn't either.
    Yeah, Dunn's had several +.400 OBP seasons. I remember them.

    The only thing Dunn's got on Drew is health (which is important, true.) I'll take Drew's game any day of the week over Dunn's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyer85 View Post
    Dunn spent 2 months in AAA at age 21. It seems likely Bruce will spend at least 2 months there in 2008.
    Yes, but Dunn's two months were June and July.

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    Good thing Dunn isn't Drew and I sure hope Bruce isn't either. I hope they don't rush him either. His ETA is some time in 2008 and taking over as the regular RF in 2009. Bruce will likely hit for a higher average with less power than Dunn. He still has work to do in the minors.

    The numbers Bruce is putting up are very similar to what Kearns and Dunn were doing in the minors. The question on those guys was where did the ability to hit for a higher average go? I think rushing them both to the majors did neither a favor. The pitching is exponentially tougher.
    JD Drew, as a player is very, very good. His health problems aside, he is a great hitter. While Jay may or may not hit as many home runs as Dunn, his power will be much better in terms of slugging. He will hit for a higher average, hit more doubles and hit a similar number of home runs as Adam Dunn.

    As for the numbers Bruce is puting up being similar to Kearns and Dunn, its true. Problem is he is doing stuff at a level or two levels higher than they were at the same age and that makes a WORLD of a difference. Can you imagine what Jay Bruce would be donig in the Midwest League if he were repeating his season there? That is what Dunn and Kearns were doing as 20 year olds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    Yeah, Dunn's had several +.400 OBP seasons. I remember them.
    Drew has hopped between 4 different teams has only played over 140 games twice in his career and has a 893 career OPS. BTW, Dunns career OPS is also .893.

    Drew is a guy with a lot of talent who, for whatever reason, has not been able to stay on the field.

    Just goes to show how easily things can go awry from all the projections. I think even though Drew has had a decent career to this point, everyone would consider it a disappointment.
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    Re: Bruce to AAA?

    Jay Bruce is the future right fielder for the Cincinnati Reds. I would be satisfied if he was the Opening Day right fielder in 2009, but if he was doing well enough to be promoted to Louisville this year, let's see what he can do in AAA.

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    Re: Bruce to AAA?

    If Jay Bruce ends up on the Reds in 2007, the Reds will be 2 for 2 in rushing highly touted prospects for 2007.

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    I don't think it would be an issue to bring up young position players (20, 21 yrs old) to the majors if they deserve it. I don't believe you can rush position players. Look at how many young players over the pst 5 years who have came up to the big leagues at the age of 20, 21, and can you honestly say they are better than bruce at the same point in their carrers? Bruce will be fine, IMO.

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    Re: Bruce to AAA?

    So is there any more truth to this rumor yet?
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    Re: Bruce to AAA?

    Its official.

    http://www.timesfreepress.com/absolu...18043&zoneid=6
    Following the game, Bruce was promoted to Triple-A Louisville to help plug short-term concerns with the Bats. Earlier this week, shortstop Paul Janish was called up to Louisville.

    Lookouts manager Jayhawk Owens expects Bruce and Janish, two of Cincinnati's top 10 prospects, back within a week.

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    Re: Bruce to AAA?

    I know I sound like a broken record, but the short stay at AA does seem to be in keeping with WK's stated philosophy of Station to Station promotion. I've found very few exceptions to this rule, even if the stays were very short.

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    Re: Bruce to AAA?

    I may be in the minority, but I like this move. Hopefully he sticks and is there for the remainder of the season, barring a September call up.
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    Re: Bruce to AAA?

    Any idea on where they're going to play Bruce while he's in AAA?


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