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    Saarloos trade completed

    The leftover bits of the Kirk Saarloos deal have been finished today, according to the team press notes. The Reds receive reliever Dan Denham, a 24 year old righty. He'll go to Sarasota. Oakland gets Julio Manon, a 34 year old AAA righty.

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    Re: Saarloos trade completed

    Organizational filler for future organizational filler. Good stuff.
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    If that doesn't say bust right there, then I don't know what does. A 34 year old AAA player. Ha.

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    Denham is a former 1st-round pick and was a top Indians prospect for awhile. Could be interesting, if his arm is sound.

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    At least we got younger

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph View Post
    At least we got younger

    Yeah. But we lost all of that experience in the clubhouse.

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    Re: Saarloos trade completed

    A 34 year old AAA righty whose name doesn't even remotely ring a bell...hmmm. That is a rare bird and an odd return for a former member of the A's rotation and a 24 year old former first rounder.

    Could there be more going on here? This may be the prelude to a bigger deal...maybe.
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    Re: Saarloos trade completed

    Quote Originally Posted by Spitball View Post
    A 34 year old AAA righty whose name doesn't even remotely ring a bell...hmmm. That is a rare bird and an odd return for a former member of the A's rotation and a 24 year old former first rounder.

    Could there be more going on here? This may be the prelude to a bigger deal...maybe.
    Don't forget that David Shaffer was sent to the A's originally too. I always thought that the "two players to be named later", with us both swapping each other an additional player, was a bit odd - but this wasn't Saarloos and Denham for Manon only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redsmetz View Post
    Don't forget that David Shaffer was sent to the A's originally too. I always thought that the "two players to be named later", with us both swapping each other an additional player, was a bit odd - but this wasn't Saarloos and Denham for Manon only.
    No one ever said it was. The coments were vis a vie the two minor leaguers. However, I will say that this will build Krivskey's rep as a great trader by getting a former #1 pick for someone that Reds fans never heard of before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by remdog View Post
    No one ever said it was. The coments were vis a vie the two minor leaguers. However, I will say that this will build Krivskey's rep as a great trader by getting a former #1 pick for someone that Reds fans never heard of before.

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    Actually I was responding to Spitball who wrote, "an odd return for a former member of the A's rotation and a 24 year old former first rounder", but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. I hope it's a nice pick up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redsmetz View Post
    Actually I was responding to Spitball who wrote, "an odd return for a former member of the A's rotation and a 24 year old former first rounder", but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. I hope it's a nice pick up.

    Thanks, Redsmetz, I had forgotten about Shaffer.
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    Denham has been backpedaling something serious. He was a HS draft pick in 2001 and made it to AAA in 2005... but ever since there have been problems. He walked a bunch of people in 2006 in AA, struggled a second time in AAA and was let go as a 6YR FA. Now, this year, he's made only 16 appearances, all in relief after starting exclusively for all of his career (except for '06), and struggled some more.

    And now he's back in High-A. Hopefully the Reds made sure the guy was healthy first, because the stats show he might not be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by remdog View Post
    Yeah. But we lost all of that experience in the clubhouse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc. Scott View Post
    Denham has been backpedaling something serious. He was a HS draft pick in 2001 and made it to AAA in 2005... but ever since there have been problems. He walked a bunch of people in 2006 in AA, struggled a second time in AAA and was let go as a 6YR FA. Now, this year, he's made only 16 appearances, all in relief after starting exclusively for all of his career (except for '06), and struggled some more.

    And now he's back in High-A. Hopefully the Reds made sure the guy was healthy first, because the stats show he might not be.
    I'm just curious, and maybe this sounds crazy, but is it possible we've taken him knowing there might be such issues, but feel as if his ceiling might be high enough to work through? Or maybe we're just taking a flyer? It doesn't seem like we gave up much for him.


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