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    Votto and Bruce need to be in Cincy Aug. 1st

    The Reds in my opinion could save thereselves alot of money if they call up Votto and especially Bruce after the trade deadline. If the Reds trade Dunn they need to see if Bruce can hit major league pitching this year. If they do give him the call and he hits good enough then they would not have to spend 4-8 million dollars on a stop gap like Mike Cameron until Bruce is ready. They could just use all 25-32 million on bullpen help and maybe a couple starters. Anyone else agree?
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    Re: Votto and Bruce ned to be in Cincy Aug. 1st

    YES MAYBE.

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    Re: Votto and Bruce ned to be in Cincy Aug. 1st

    Quote Originally Posted by BearcatShane View Post
    If the Reds trade Dunn they need to see if Bruce can hit major league pitching this year.
    They should make sure he can hit AAA pitching before they move him along. In the two games prior to tonight he was 1-8 albeit with a homerun. His 2-4 tonight helps that average but this guy was hardly a top prospect for the Yankees (2-3, 5.22ERA). The Reds need to give him a chance to sink or swim in AAA and not rush him. If he forces there hand and continues his torrid season, give him a call up in September. So far he has at times looked overmatched with the Bats.

    I do agree that Votto should be up here as soon as they can move either Hatte or Conine.

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    Re: Votto and Bruce ned to be in Cincy Aug. 1st

    Quote Originally Posted by joshnky View Post
    They should make sure he can hit AAA pitching before they move him along. In the two games prior to tonight he was 1-8 albeit with a homerun. His 2-4 tonight helps that average but this guy was hardly a top prospect for the Yankees (2-3, 5.22ERA).

    I do agree that Votto should be up here as soon as they can move either Hatte or Conine.

    Thats only 8 at bats though, and even if the guy the Yanks threw out there tonight has been strugling this year you can't expect a 4-4 night. I'll be concerned if he's hitting .250 down there after 80 at bats. It's not like he's been overmatched in AAA either.

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    Re: Votto and Bruce ned to be in Cincy Aug. 1st

    Quote Originally Posted by BearcatShane View Post
    Thats only 8 at bats though, and even if the guy the Yanks threw out there tonight has been strugling this year you can't expect a 4-4 night. I'll be concerned if he's hitting .250 down there after 80 at bats. It's not like he's been overmatched in AAA either.
    My point exactly. It might be jumping the gun to call for his promotion when he only has 12 ABs in AAA. He needs more than 2 weeks to prove himself.

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    Re: Votto and Bruce ned to be in Cincy Aug. 1st

    Quote Originally Posted by joshnky View Post
    My point exactly. It might be jumping the gun to call for his promotion when he only has 12 ABs in AAA. He needs more than 2 weeks to prove himself.

    Yea, I'll give ya that. But after 100-120 at bats if he's hitting .320 with 8 homers and 30 RBI I think it would then be time to give him a shot.

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    Re: Votto and Bruce ned to be in Cincy Aug. 1st

    Quote Originally Posted by BearcatShane View Post
    Yea, I'll give ya that. But after 100-120 at bats if he's hitting .320 with 8 homers and 30 RBI I think it would then be time to give him a shot.
    I agree. Hopefully he'll be able to put up those numbers and force the decision. Although if we keep Dunn and Griffey he won't have a spot to play in and we'll just have to wait until next year.

    Edit: I'd like his numbers against AAA lefties to be decent as well before he gets the call.

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    Re: Votto and Bruce ned to be in Cincy Aug. 1st

    Also how does this lineup look?

    1. CF Josh Hamilton
    2. 2B Brandon Phillips
    3. RF Ken Griffey Jr.
    4. 3B Edwin Encarnacion
    5. LF Jay Bruce
    6 1B Joey Votto
    7. SS Alex Gonzalez
    8. C David Ross
    9 Pitcher


    If Votto and Bruce don't struggle a ton when their called up that lineup can be very dangerous. Why not get Bruce ready now so he knows what to expect in 2008? And we could get a good starter and totally rebuild the bullpen this offseason. Thats just my opinion.

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    Re: Votto and Bruce ned to be in Cincy Aug. 1st

    Votto: Yes
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    Re: Votto and Bruce ned to be in Cincy Aug. 1st

    Quote Originally Posted by degenerate10 View Post
    Votto: Yes
    Bruce: No
    Agree.

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    Re: Votto and Bruce ned to be in Cincy Aug. 1st

    Who are these free agent pitchers we should spend this 13 million on? Linebrink is the only value out there. I offer him the closers role here and see where that gets us. NO starter that will be a free agent will be worth their salary. If you can get good value for Dunn or Griffey (i.e. decent reliever and young starter or hitter) you trade them, othrewise you keep them and try to trade next year or sign up for as reasonably as possible. Worst case scenario is you get a valuable compensatory pick when they walk. Bruce should not come up this year and Votto should have been starting for a month. Bailey is still going to be a great pitcher and Harang is an ace so we won't need Bailey to be a #1 for 3-4 years. Arroyo is turning it around so we really need t find 1 starter out of the minors or a cheap free agent preferably a veteran that's not 40. Were not going to win the World Series in the next 2 years but were not bad enough to need to start from scratch.

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    Re: Votto and Bruce ned to be in Cincy Aug. 1st

    I don't even wanna think about him getting back into that....

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    Re: Votto and Bruce ned to be in Cincy Aug. 1st

    Quote Originally Posted by BearcatShane View Post
    I don't even wanna think about him getting back into that....
    God forbid that he does. I'm sure that he won't but you can never tell.
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    Re: Votto and Bruce ned to be in Cincy Aug. 1st

    again..i have said this over and over...you need power hitters...YOU PLAY IN A POWER HITTERS PARK!!!!

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    Re: Votto and Bruce ned to be in Cincy Aug. 1st

    Quote Originally Posted by Chi-Town Red View Post
    again..i have said this over and over...you need power hitters...YOU PLAY IN A POWER HITTERS PARK!!!!
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