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    Conine, Lohse most likely to be moved

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    Lohse: The next Meche
    Now that White Sox left-hander Mark Buehrle has signed long-term, Cubs right-hander Carlos Zambrano looms as the top 30-and-under starting pitcher on the free-agent market and the Cubs still might retain "Big Z" once their potential ownership choices are narrowed down to one or two groups.

    The rest of the 2007-08 free-agent class is so weak, one scout wonders whether Reds right-hander Kyle Lohse will be this year's version of Royals righty Gil Meche, a talented but inconsistent pitcher who hits the jackpot on the open market.

    It could happen.

    Lohse, who turns 29 on Dec. 4, has done little to warrant a major long-term investment, but then, neither had Meche at this point a year ago.

    Meche, then 28, was 55-44 with a 4.65 career ERA when he became a free agent. Lohse currently is 59-73 with a 4.84 career ERA. His strikeout rate is lower than Meche's was at the end of last season. His strikeout-to-walk ratio is higher. Their walks-and-hits-per-nine-innings ratios are nearly identical.

    Lohse is almost certain to be traded to a contender before July 31. His performance in the final two months will help determine how well he fares as a free agent.




    - The Mets are one of several clubs interested in the Reds' Jeff Conine as a right-handed hitter off the bench. Conine and Lohse are the Reds most likely to be moved. The Twins and Diamondbacks are two other clubs that could be in the mix for Conine.

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    Re: Conine, Lohse most likely to be moved

    Do something already Wayne.

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    Re: Conine, Lohse most likely to be moved

    If those are the only two players dealt by the deadline, I will be very, very, very disappointed.

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    Re: Conine, Lohse most likely to be moved

    Quote Originally Posted by MrCinatit View Post
    If those are the only two players dealt by the deadline, I will be very, very, very disappointed.
    Hatteberg should be on that list....Weathers....Dunn (for the right deal)...

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    Re: Conine, Lohse most likely to be moved

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Hatteberg should be on that list....Weathers....Dunn (for the right deal)...
    Stanton, as well.

    Edit: Maybe Coffey. Saarloos - if anyone would take him.
    Moeller and Javy - see above.
    And, my patience is thin with Freel, but I have a feeling his value is a lot lower than what we would expect.
    Last edited by MrCinatit; 07-18-2007 at 10:31 AM.

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    Re: Conine, Lohse most likely to be moved

    Quote Originally Posted by MrCinatit View Post
    Stanton, as well.

    Edit: Maybe Coffey. Saarloos - if anyone would take him.
    Moeller and Javy - see above.
    And, my patience is thin with Freel, but I have a feeling his value is a lot lower than what we would expect.
    Stanton...we can only dream of moving that contract. I'm pretty sure he has negative trade value.

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    Re: Conine, Lohse most likely to be moved

    Lohse, Conine, Hatteberg, Stanton - would be fine with me.
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    Re: Conine, Lohse most likely to be moved

    Stanton for leftover body parts would work....old knees, bad shoulders, some elbow tendons...

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    Re: Conine, Lohse most likely to be moved

    Stanton will only be moved if we can somehow package him with some premier land in FL.

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    Re: Conine, Lohse most likely to be moved

    Quote Originally Posted by puca View Post
    Stanton...we can only dream of moving that contract. I'm pretty sure he has negative trade value.
    I've said this repeatedly, I think Stanton's contract is very moveable and he can be of considerable help to a contending team; last night's performance notwithstanding. In fact, I think this contract was made expecting to move him.

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    Re: Conine, Lohse most likely to be moved

    Quote Originally Posted by redsmetz View Post
    I've said this repeatedly, I think Stanton's contract is very moveable and he can be of considerable help to a contending team; last night's performance notwithstanding. In fact, I think this contract was made expecting to move him.
    Agreed. I think that was the plan with all the "Vets".

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    Re: Conine, Lohse most likely to be moved

    General manager Brian Cashman said again that it is no certainty he will make a trade to bolster the first-base situation. Andy Phillips has been playing well and could keep that job.

    Cashman said of Phillips: "He's doing a great job for us, there's no doubt about it. Got to give him credit."

    Besides the Rangers' Mark Teixeira, there may be no trade targets who would be a clear upgrade at first base. The Yankees have asked about Teixeira, but he is likely to cost too much in terms of prospects.
    I'm pretty sure Hatteberg would be an upgrade over Andy Phillips.

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    Re: Conine, Lohse most likely to be moved

    Here's another interesting tidbit conncerning the Yanks.

    The Yankees are talking to teams about dealing a reliever -- perhaps right-handers Kyle Farnsworth, Scott Proctor or Brian Bruney -- for a utility-type player.

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    Re: Conine, Lohse most likely to be moved

    Farnsworth for Farney.

    I'd almost do that.
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    Re: Conine, Lohse most likely to be moved

    Quote Originally Posted by Heath View Post
    Farnsworth for Farney.

    I'd almost do that.
    I think WK would be tarred and feathered if he traded a fan favorite for another 'middle reliever'.

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