Last 5 games from Stubbs:
He's continued the hot streak. He's even mixing in some doubles. His hot July has pushed his line to .369/.401/.770.Code:Date OPP AVG AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS Jul 19 CED .250 4 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 3 0 0 Jul 20 CED .000 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 2 0 0 Jul 21 @KCC .500 4 2 2 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 Jul 22 @KCC .750 4 0 3 2 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 Jul 23 @KCC .250 4 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0
The OBP is nice, but it would be nice if Stubbs went on a bit of a homer binge to get his SLG into the .430 range.
Granted we can never take months out of guys numbers, but if we take out Drews beyong horrible June his numbers would look like this: .290/.399/.479 for an OPS of .878 (not counting todays numbers). Its actually rather promising to look at it like that.
Last 6 games from Stubbs:
After his major hot streak Stubbs has gone in another K binge. I expect him to continue being pretty inconsistent. He still clearly hasn't made enough strides to really merit consideration for a move up to Sarasota until next season.Code:Date OPP AVG AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS Jul 24 @KCC .000 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 Jul 26 @PEO .000 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 Jul 27 @PEO .250 4 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 3 0 0 Jul 28 @PEO .400 5 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 Jul 29 @PEO .250 4 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 Jul 31 WIS .000 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0
Current season stats:
Code:Team League AVG G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG OPS DAY MID .257 98 378 68 97 21 2 8 28 146 58 115 21 13 .362 .386 .748
Let's remember this is a former three-year college player who is currently playing in low-A ball. I could live with his numbers if he was at AA or maybe even high-A like a player his age and experience (not to mention draft position) should be.
Sorry, nothing against the young man personally, but we're here to talk baseball and be real about it. This was a horrible pick IMO. I thought it was bad at the time (with Lincecum sitting right there) but i was wrong. It wasn't bad, it was horrible. At this point, I am hoping he can develop into a solid No. 4 OF for us in a couple years, someone who gets some spot starts against lefties. And that is really a stretch IMO. And it's very low expectations for a top 10 overall pick of the draft. Yes, we needed a right-handed hitting OF and we still do. Hamilton and Bruce are 2/3 of the OF of the future and they need a righty to go with them. But you don't draft based on need in MLB and that's what I think the Reds did with Stubbs. In no way was he the best player available, or even close. And yes, it's easy to say that almost 14 months removed from the draft, but I never did like that pick.
All that said, go out and prove me wrong Drew. Of course I will be rooting for him like he's my son as soon as he puts that Reds uniform on. And I'm sure he'll get his shot as a former first-rounder. But if he's ever a full-time starter, I will be shocked.
With all do respect, this discussion has really happened a million times here. It was a bad pick. Lincecum was the choice. 90% of Redszone said so at the time.
I was hoping this thread could be more about Drew Stubbs' progress rather than guys the Reds should have had instead of Drew Stubbs. But I definitely do agree that Stubbs is not where he needs to be. He has a very long road to go as a hitter.
Last edited by Patrick Bateman; 08-01-2007 at 01:15 AM.
For those who know how to find these stats easily, how did Lincecum's bonus compare to Stubbs'? Thanks.
Lincecum signed for $2.025M, and Stubbs signed for $2M. Cue the people who will claim the Reds' intention was signing the cheaper guy . . .
IT'S A STUBBS/LINCECUM DISCUSSION! THE ORGANIZATION IS IN SUCH DESPAIR!
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Seriously, can we not have another Stubbs/Lincecum debate? Especially in the prospect profile. These are supposed to be for information on the player to give others as much information about the player as possible, not about who someone else would have drafted instead.
Well, if he continues at this pace, Austin Kearns' avatar will be right. Unfortunatley, he will probably be roaming CF for the Lookouts or the Bats, not the Reds.
In fact, they might deal him as soon as this offseason if they get someone dangling a decent relief arm or as a throw-in on a bigger deal. If Wayne and Co. feel like he's not going to get substantially better in 2008, they'll cash out before the market drops further.
Stubbs has an IsoD like I thought Jay Bruce would have. Pretty impressive, especially coupled with his defensive abilities in CF.
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