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    Yankees not biting on a Dunn trade...

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    The Reds have tried to get the Yankees interested in Adam Dunn, but so far the Yankees have balked at parting with top talent in return for Dunn because Andy Phillips is playing well at first base, and they might still get Jason Giambi and Doug Mientkiewicz back before the end of the year. Also, if traded, Dunn can opt for free agency at the end of this season, and he's a hardcore Texan who's not a real good bet to sign long-term with a New York team.

    If the Reds are going to deal a pitcher, they'd rather it be Kyle Lohse, since they have Arroyo signed through 2010 and they believe that, in the NL Central, nobody's more than a year away from contending.

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    Re: Yankees not biting on a Dunn trade...

    Apparently a .284/.333/.403 line is good for a 1B in the AL East.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Yankees not biting on a Dunn trade...

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    Apparently a .284/.333/.403 line is good for a 1B in the AL East.
    It's not, but I imagine they make some of it up by getting well above average offense from 3B, SS, and C.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blumj View Post
    It's not, but I imagine they make some of it up by getting well above average offense from 3B, SS, and C.
    I agree. And with the throwing yips of that IF, Meintkaefopij isn't a bad option if he can OPS .700. The "Andy Phillips is playing well" argument is a Red Herring. Cashman just doesn't want to deal away real prospects for a rental 1B who hasn't played 1B much and didn't play it very well when he tried. A perfectly defensible argument for most of us, but not when your audience is Steinbrenner and Yankee fans accustomed to buying whatever they need.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Can I again say to the Yankees: the feeling is mutual?

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    Re: Yankees not biting on a Dunn trade...

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    I agree. And with the throwing yips of that IF, Meintkaefopij isn't a bad option if he can OPS .700. The "Andy Phillips is playing well" argument is a Red Herring. Cashman just doesn't want to deal away real prospects for a rental 1B who hasn't played 1B much and didn't play it very well when he tried. A perfectly defensible argument for most of us, but not when your audience is Steinbrenner and Yankee fans accustomed to buying whatever they need.
    Yankees could use Dunn at 1B, LF (when Matsui needs rest) and DH.
    They just don't want to give up what the Reds are asking.

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    Re: Yankees not biting on a Dunn trade...

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    Apparently a .284/.333/.403 line is good for a 1B in the AL East.
    His July numbers are .333/.370/.431. Not great, but maybe not worth venturing out to rent a player and give up a top prospect. If a team is willing to have Doug Mentkiewicz (sp?) at 1B, then I'm sure they won't be upset with that line.

    Here's Adam Dunn's July:
    .196/.377/.391 Not so good.

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    Yankees need pitching more.
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    Re: Yankees not biting on a Dunn trade...

    The yanks should be sellers
    Go Gators!

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    Re: Yankees not biting on a Dunn trade...

    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed View Post
    The yanks should be sellers
    You beat me to it, my man.
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    Re: Yankees not biting on a Dunn trade...

    Quote Originally Posted by oneupper View Post
    Yankees need pitching more.
    Well, whatever it is that they need, is it really too much to ask that no one gives it to them? Pretty please?
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    Re: Yankees not biting on a Dunn trade...

    Well word out of NY is that the Devil Rays are interested in a Wigginton for Procter swap. And the Rockies are interested in Farnsworth (who's had only 3 '1-2-3' innings this year).

    If the Yanks clear up that space, they will probably call up Chamberlain and try to work him into the setup role.


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