We know, Mrs. Cueto.Originally Posted by KeyMastur
We know, Mrs. Cueto.
ha...not even close....
I don't think anyone is trying to "jock" Homer for a savior. This just happens to be a rotation that badly needs pitching, and Homer has a great arm, and has potential for the future. It's natural to be excited. The guy has had a few bad months in his first time through the major leagues. Hardly enough reason to write him off.
But I do agree with your point about Cueto, he is a better pitcher than Bailey. As far as who has more potential, that might be another story, but Cueto is light years ahead of Bailey in some aspects of pitching.
Stuff - Homer by a landlide.
Command - Cueto, but not by as much as it has shown this year because I am pretty confident that Homers injury was messing with his command. Still, a healthy Homer doesn't have the command Cueto does.
Velocity - Homer by a little.
Size/projectability - Homer, although I am not too worried at all about Cueto's size, although I wonder how his fastball will be handled by more experienced guys with the lack of downward plane he gets.
The only thing Cueto has better than Homer is his control, and while control is important I think when Homer is healthy (and he hasnt been for the last 6 weeks according to comments he has made recently) that Homer's control is fine. Not that Johnny isnt a very good pitcher, he is. He will probably be making the top 40 of top prospect lists all offseason, which is no small feat.
I have seen Johnny throw probably 60+ innings in person or on TV. I have seen Homer throw a little more than that. I have plenty to back up my statement.
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Bailey #5 , Cueto not even in the "Just Missed" which added another 10 names or so.
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Yep. Homer is clearly the more projectable arm.
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You bolded it, not me. But he knows how to pitch probably better than any Reds pitcher right now outside of Harang. He understands pitching pretty darn well. Although he knows how to pitch, doesn't mean he can show it easily. When his command is poor, it is hard for him to show that he knows how to pitch.
In fairness to Cueto, if any publication is going to ding him points for being undersized and not fitting the prototypical pitcher image, its going to be BA, IMO.
I like what Cueto has done thus far, but he's the type of guy that I'm not going to get terribly excited about until I see what he does against AAA hitters on a regular basis.
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what ???????? hahaha. that's a good joke. thanks. was havin a rough day.
you're tellin me he's smarter than bronson, lohse, santos, weathers, and yes, even livingston ??
i'm not talkin command. i'm talkin brains.
thank you
BA (Baseball America) will make or break a kids career. you get a good report from them, other people (like the homer-mania people) will start to believe the hype too
I'll give you Weathers.
BA likes Mr Cueto just fine. There is only so much 'hype' than can be created. In the end, everyone makes up their own mind on something for this reason or that reason. I go with my eyes.... not what BA says, although what BA says is actually what teams and teams scouts tell them that helps them form an opinion based on what they see themselves.
Also Keymastur, You seem to laugh at everything you disagree with that someone else says. It started off with me saying Bailey was better than Cueto, then when Aves stated his opinion that was also funny.
You blasted me for my comment and said it was baseless because I probably have never seen Cueto pitch. Then when I came back to you with why I said what I said, and noted how much I have seen each guy pitch you seemingly had no response.
I have a question for you. What makes you any more qualified than me, or Aves, or anyone else for that matter that a simple opinion of who is a better pitcher is laughable if we disagree with you?
I just think it is awesome that the Red's have count them 2 ! Pitchers that will become serious difference makers in the future. God I love the thought!
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Sometimes I feel Bronson overthinks himself when he pitches, but that is another topic for another time.
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