Turn Off Ads?
Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 53

Thread: Lohse to Phillies for Matt Maloney

  1. #1
    Worst Behavior. reds44's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    North Carolina
    Posts
    25,402

    Reds Trade Loshe to Phillies

    Matt Maloney coming back. AA LHP.

    Solid trade.

  2. Turn Off Ads?
  3. #2
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    369

    Lohse to Phillies for Matt Maloney

    The Phillies, seeking to upgrade their rotation, have acquired Reds
    right-hander Kyle Lohse for Class AA left-hander Matt Maloney,
    according to a major-league source.

    http://www.thebaseballcube.com/playe...-Maloney.shtml

  4. #3
    I'm gettin paper Homer Bailey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Chicago, IL
    Posts
    4,689

    Re: Reds Trade Loshe to Phillies

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    Matt Maloney coming back. AA LHP.

    Solid trade.
    Beat me to it.... I like the return.... Solid K/9 rate. Don't know much else about him.

  5. #4
    Worst Behavior. reds44's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    North Carolina
    Posts
    25,402

    Re: Reds Trade Loshe to Phillies

    He's 6-4 and throws left handed and strikes out alot of people.

    What's not to like?

  6. #5
    Member dunner13's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    607

    Re: Lohse to Phillies for Matt Maloney

    I saw maloney pitch just a few weeks ago. He looked pretty solid, I could see him as a decent back of the rotation guy.

  7. #6
    yeah...
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Huntington, WV
    Posts
    264

    Re: Reds Trade Loshe to Phillies

    Quote Originally Posted by Homer Bailey View Post
    Beat me to it.... I like the return.... Solid K/9 rate. Don't know much else about him.
    Reading from the ORG, he's a tall, soft-tossing lefty. Maybe another Livingston with a slightly higher ceiling?

    ...and this is all Lohse could get?

    This could be a really disappointing deadline...

  8. #7
    Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Connecticut
    Posts
    716

    Re: Reds Trade Loshe to Phillies

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    He's 6-4 and throws left handed and strikes out alot of people.

    What's not to like?
    stuff wise, he sounds alot like bobby livingston but for lohse it isnt a bad deal.

  9. #8
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    81

    Re: Lohse to Phillies for Matt Maloney

    ...and this is all Lohse could get?
    I'm not sure what you wanted. It's almost hard to believe that anyone was willing to give up something for Lohse.

    I'll take it. It's not like Lohse was going to be around next year. Let someone else worry about whether they are getting the good Lohse or the bad Lohse every five days.

  10. #9
    Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    Indiana
    Posts
    502

    Re: Reds Trade Loshe to Phillies

    Quote Originally Posted by IamWallaman View Post
    Reading from the ORG, he's a tall, soft-tossing lefty. Maybe another Livingston with a slightly higher ceiling?

    ...and this is all Lohse could get?

    This could be a really disappointing deadline...
    Considering I wouldn't give up anything for Lohse, I find it an ok deal.
    "I was on tour in the US back in '89 and we we did a show in Cincinnati. During that show I shouted out, 'It's great to be in Cincinnati!' That was a lie." -- David Bowie

  11. #10
    ZCTRMTP!!!!! texasdave's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Posts
    10,807

    Re: Lohse to Phillies for Matt Maloney

    From phuturephillies.com:



    Maloney, Matt, LHP (age 23) Grade = B

    On paper, Maloney should be an A++. He put up a sparking 2.03 ERA in 168.2 IP in 2006, allowed only 120 hits and struck out 180 batters, en route to helping lead the Blueclaws to the SAL title. However, there are some problems, in my view. First, he was 22 the entire year, on the high end of the prospect spectrum. College pitchers should dominate at low A, and Maloney did. The second problem, which ties in with the third, is his walk rate. He walked 73 in the 168.2 IP, which is a lot of walks. This ties in with the third problem, his mediocre stuff. He has a deceptive delivery (but it looks max effort to me, which could be a problem), and he relies on his slow curveball to get outs. The problem is, at higher levels, batters are less likely to swing at breaking balls out of the zone. Most guys with fringe stuff are pinpoint control guys, like Kevin Slowey and Jeremy Sowers, and scouts even question their success at higher levels. For a guy with an 86-89 MPH fastball, even for a lefty, I think he’s going to need to really refine his control at the higher levels, or he’s going to hit a wall quickly. Because he clearly didn’t belong in the SAL, we’ll have to see how he does against better competition. I’m not writing him off, though my writeup seems harsh, but I want to see him dominate (or at least pitch well) at higher levels against more advanced hitters. If his control improves, so will his grade.

    Ceiling: Because of the lack of a high quality fastball or above average stuff, his ceiling is probably as a 4th/5th starter.

    Floor: Brian Mazone without the steroids?

    Conclusion: Finesse pitchers are really tough to figure out and project. If his control improves, he’s got a much better shot to reach his ceiling. If it doesn’t improve, he looks more like a AAAA pitcher, or maybe a possible reliever down the road. His 2007 should land him in Reading, where he’ll be the proper age for his level, and will be facing much more advanced prospects. If he repeats his numbers from 2006, he’ll be a legit prospect, and the ceiling might even improve.

    So far in 2007 while pitching at Reading his walk rate has declined (gotten better). In 2006 he was at 10.3% BB/PA. In 2007 it has lowered to 8.3% BB/PA. His strikeout rate has also declined (gotten worse) but not substantially so. His 2007 FIP ERA(similar to DIPS) is 3.97. These numbers are from www.firstinning.com.
    Last edited by texasdave; 07-30-2007 at 04:01 PM.

  12. #11
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    197

    Re: Reds Trade Loshe to Phillies

    Quote Originally Posted by IamWallaman View Post
    Reading from the ORG, he's a tall, soft-tossing lefty. Maybe another Livingston with a slightly higher ceiling?

    ...and this is all Lohse could get?

    This could be a really disappointing deadline...
    Sounds like a cheaper version of Eric Milton:thumbdown

  13. #12
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Posts
    128

    Re: Reds Trade Loshe to Phillies

    Quote Originally Posted by IamWallaman View Post
    Reading from the ORG, he's a tall, soft-tossing lefty. Maybe another Livingston with a slightly higher ceiling?

    ...and this is all Lohse could get?

    This could be a really disappointing deadline...
    Good God, what do you want for Kyle freaking Lohse??

  14. #13
    Member mroby85's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Ohio
    Posts
    2,282

    Re: Lohse to Phillies for Matt Maloney

    glad to see they unloaded lohse.

  15. #14
    Viva la Rolen kaldaniels's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    8,033

    Re: Lohse to Phillies for Matt Maloney

    Great post on ORG stating this was a "solid single" for WK...couldn't have put it any better.

    Heck, even Falls City Beers liked the move.

  16. #15
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    1,040

    Re: Lohse to Phillies for Matt Maloney

    Im just happy that hes gone


Turn Off Ads?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Board Moderators may, at their discretion and judgment, delete and/or edit any messages that violate any of the following guidelines: 1. Explicit references to alleged illegal or unlawful acts. 2. Graphic sexual descriptions. 3. Racial or ethnic slurs. 4. Use of edgy language (including masked profanity). 5. Direct personal attacks, flames, fights, trolling, baiting, name-calling, general nuisance, excessive player criticism or anything along those lines. 6. Posting spam. 7. Each person may have only one user account. It is fine to be critical here - that's what this board is for. But let's not beat a subject or a player to death, please.

Thank you, and most importantly, enjoy yourselves!


RedsZone.com is a privately owned website and is not affiliated with the Cincinnati Reds or Major League Baseball


Contact us: Boss | GIK | BCubb2003 | dabvu2498 | Gallen5862 | LexRedsFan | Plus Plus | RedlegJake | redsfan1995 | The Operator | Tommyjohn25