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    Which Reds players are arbitration eligible next year?

    I'm thinking Belisle, Phillips, Majewski, and maybe Gosling. Any additions, subtractions? Either way, it doesn't seem like anyone is going to be getting a huge raise from arbitration.
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    Re: Which Reds players are arbitration eligible next year?

    Everyone gets a pretty good bump in arbitration.

    Phillips will likely be in the $2.5M range.

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    Re: Which Reds players are arbitration eligible next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    I'm thinking Belisle, Phillips, Majewski, and maybe Gosling. Any additions, subtractions? Either way, it doesn't seem like anyone is going to be getting a huge raise from arbitration.
    i'm not sure how it works, but Majewski had 2.039 years of service time heading into the year and unless he gets a late call-up, I don't see him getting enough time this year to put him into three years. Do I have that right?

    Also, Gosling showed he only had .092 service time coming into the year. Not that it matters, because I couldn't see him getting anything anyway.

    Phillips and possibly Belisle appear to me the only ones getting a significant raise that haven't already been signed.

    I show Saarloos has arb eligible. Is that right?

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    Re: Which Reds players are arbitration eligible next year?

    A group led by Robert Castellini purchased controlling interest (about 70 percent) in the Reds in November, 2005. (The purchase was based on an enterprise value of the team of about $270M.) Carl Lindner, who retains a minority ownership stake, bought the Reds in 1999 for $183M.
    Forbes magazine valued the club at $307M in April 2007.

    * Opening Day payrolls for 25-man roster
    (salaries plus pro-rated signing bonuses):
    o 2007: $ 68,904,980 *
    o 2006: $ 60,909,519
    o 2005: $ 61,892,583
    o 2004: $ 46,615,250
    o 2003: $ 59,355,667
    o 2002: $ 45,050,390
    o 2001: $ 48,986,000
    o 2000: $ 44,200,000

    * * 2007 payroll obligations for former players:
    o $2,950,000 (Jason LaRue)
    o $2,250,000 (Rheal Cormier)


    Wayne Krivsky General Manager
    2 years (2006-07), plus 2008 & 2009 mutual options

    * hired 2/06 (formerly assistant GM with Minnesota)
    * club exercised 2008 option 6/06
    * assistant GM Bob Miller
    * senior director of scouting Chris Buckley
    * director of player development Johnny Almaraz
    * former general manager Dan O'Brien was fired 1/06 with 1 year remaining on a 3 year/$1.5M (2004-06) contract

    Pete Mackanin Interim Manager
    2007

    * hired as interim manager 7/2/07
    * former manager Jerry Narron was fired 7/2/07
    o Narron signed 2- year extension (2007-08) 6/06
    o 07:$0.6M
    o signed extension as permanent manager 9/05
    o 1 year (2006), plus mutual option for 2007
    o hired on interim basis 6/05
    * former manager Dave Miley was fired 6/05
    o Miley had signed extension for 2006 (with 2007 club option) 10/04
    o Miley: 1 year/$0.35M (2004), plus 2005 club option (picked up 8/04)
    o Miley was hired on an interim basis 7/03, replacing Bob Boone. The Reds hired Miley as the permanent manager 12/03


    Ken Griffey Jr. of
    9 years/$116.5M (2000-08), plus $16.5M 2009 club option

    * 00-08:$12.5M/year, 09:$16.5M club option ($4M buyout)
    * $57.5M in salary deferred at 4% interest, to be paid 2009-2024, reducing contract's present-day value at time of signing to between $9.2M and $9.3M annually, according to Reds management sources
    o $5.5M of 2000 salary deferred
    o $6.5M/year of 2001-2008 salaries deferred
    o signed 2/2000, replacing final year of previous contract
    * 4 years/$34M (1997-2000)
    o $2.5M signing bonus ($1M paid 2/96, $1.5M paid 1/97)
    o 97:$7.25M, 98:$7.75M, 99:$8.25M, 00:$8.25M
    o $5M ($1.25M/year) deferred without interest & paid 2001-04), reducing contract's present value to $32.5M
    o signed 1/31/1996
    o acquired in trade (from Seattle) 2/10/2000
    * 4 years/$24M (1993-96)
    o signed 12/92
    * 2 years/$2.535M (1991-92)
    o 91:$0.535M, 92:$2M
    o signed 3/1991
    * 1 year/$0.18M (1990)
    * 1 year/$68,000 (1989)
    * drafted 1987 (1-1), $0.16M signing bonus
    * agent: Brian Goldberg
    * ML service: 18.000

    Adam Dunn of
    2 years/$18.5M (2006-07), plus $13M 2008 club option

    * re-signed 2/06, avoided arbitration ($8.95M-$7.1M)
    * 06:$7.5M, 07:$10.5M, 08:$13M club option ($0.5M buyout)
    * 2008 option may increase to $16M based on award bonuses
    * 2008 option voids if Dunn is traded before 2008
    * 1 year/$4.6M (2005), avoided arbitration 1/05
    * 1 year/$0.445M (2004), re-signed 3/04
    * 1 year/$0.4M (2003) 3/03
    * agent: Brian Peters, Greg Genske
    * ML service: 5.074

    Eric Milton p
    3 years/$25.5M (2005-07)

    * $4M signing bonus
    * 05:$4M, 06:$8.5M, 07:$9M
    * may opt out of final year (2007) by reaching specific performance levels
    * 4 years/$21M (2001-04), plus $0.85M in performance bonuses
    o 01:$2.15M, 02:$3.85, 03:$6M, 04:$9M
    * agent: Casey Close
    * ML service: 9.000

    Aaron Harang p
    4 years/$36.5M (2007-10), plus 2011 club option

    * re-signed 2/07 (avoided arbitration, $5.5M-$4.25M)
    * 07:$4.25M, 08:$6.75M, 09:$11M, 10:$12.5M, 11:$12.75M ($2M buyout)
    * 2011 option increases to $13M with 210 IP in 2010
    * if traded, 2011 option becomes mutual option at $14M ($2.5M buyout)
    * 1 year/$2.35M (2006), re-signed 1/06 (avoided arbitration)
    * 1 year/$0.44M (2005)
    * 1 year/$0.36M (2004)
    * agents: Levinson brothers
    * ML service: 4.061

    Alex L. Gonzalez ss
    3 years/$14M (2007-09), plus $6M 2010 mutual option

    * signed as a free agent 11/06
    * 07:$3.5M, 08:$4.625M, 09:$5.375M, 10:$6M mutual option ($0.5M buyout)
    * 2009 salary increases to $5.5M with Gold Glove in 2007 or 2008
    * 1 year/$3M (2006)
    o signed as a free agent 1/06 (non-guaranteed contract)
    * 2 years/$6.2M (2004-05)
    o 04:$2.8M, 05:$3.4M
    o avoided arbitration 12/03
    * 1 year/$1.7M (2003), re-signed 12/02
    * agent: Eric Goldschmidt
    * ML service: 8.034

    Bronson Arroyo p
    3 years/$11.25M (2006-08)
    2 years/$25M (2009-10), plus 2011 club option

    * 2 years/$25M (2009-10), plus 2011 club option
    o $2.5M signing bonus (paid 2008)
    o 09:$9.5M, 10:$11M, 11:$11M club option ($2M buyout)
    o 2011 option may increase to $13M based on IP
    o agreed to give up 2008 performance bonuses as part of deal
    o signed extension 2/07
    * 3 years/$11.25M (2006-08)
    o acquired in trade 3/06, with Boston also paying $1.5M to Cincinnati
    o avoided arbitration 1/06 ($4.2M-$2.95M)
    o $0.75M signing bonus
    o 06:$2.75M, 07:$3.8M, 08:$3.95M
    o $0.325M performance bonus with 210 IP in 2008
    * 1 year/$1.85M (2005), re-signed 1/05, avoided arbitration
    * 1 year/$0.3325M (2004)
    * agent: Gregg Clifton, Terry Bross, Gaylord Sports Management
    * ML service: 4.150

    Ryan Freel inf
    2 years/$3M (2006-07)
    2 years/$7M (2008-09)

    * signed extension 4/07
    * 08:$3M, 09:$4M
    * performance bonuses based on PAs (up to $0.5M in 2008)
    * 2 years/$3M (2006-07)
    o signed extension 12/05
    o 06:$1.3M, 07:$1.7M ($2.35M with PA bonus)
    o 2007 salary increases:
    + by $0.3M (to $2M) with 200 PAs in 2006
    + by $0.95M (to $2.65M) with 650 PAs in 2006
    * 1 year/$0.45M (2005)
    * 1 year/$0.32M (2004), re-signed 3 /04
    * agent: Tommy Tanzer, CSMG
    * ML service: 3.140

    David Weathers p
    2 years/$5M (2007-08)

    * re-signed as a free agent 12/06
    * 07:$2.25M, 08:$2.75M
    * $0.8M in performance bonuses based on GF (between 35 & 65 GF)
    * 1 year/$1.35M (2005), plus 2006 club option
    o 05:$1.25M, 06:$1.25M club option ($0.1M buyout)
    o 2006 option vests at:
    + $1.25M with 55 g in 2005
    + $1.3M with 60 g in 2005
    + $1.4M with 65 g in 2005
    + $1.5M with 70 g in 2005 (appeared in 73 g)
    o signed as a free agent 12/04
    * 3 years/$9.4M (2002-04)
    o $1M signing bonus
    o 02:$1.5M, 03:$3.3M, 04:$3.6M
    o $0.1M for 70, 75, 80 g, up to $0.75M for GF
    * 2 years/$1.85M (2000-01)
    * agent: Dan Horwits
    * ML service: 12.044
    * drafted 2006 (2-52), $0.67M signing bonus
    * ML service: 13.044

    Jeff Conine of-1b
    1 year/$1.7M (2006), plus $2M 2007 mutual option

    * $2M 2007 option vested with 539 PAs in 2006
    * acquired in trade 8/06
    o $1.16M remaining on contract, including remaining base salary, performance bonuses & assignment (trade) bonus
    o may earn additional $0.35M in performance bonuses
    o Baltimore paid Philadelphia more than $0.5M as part of the deal
    * signed as a free agent 12/05
    * 06:$1.7M, 07:$2M mutual option
    * 2007 option vests with 450 Plate Appearances in 2006 (Conine retains right to void the option if it vests)
    * $0.75M in performance bonuses
    o $0.2M in performance bonuses based on games, including:
    + $25,000 for 80 g
    + $0.1M for 140 g
    o up to $0.55M in performance bonuses for PAs 200-550
    * $0.25M assignment bonus if traded in 2006 or 2007
    * 2 years/$9.25M (2003-04), plus $4.75M 2005 club option
    o 03:$4.25M, 04:$4.75M, 05:$4.75M club option ($0.25M buyout)
    * 2 years/$5.75M (2000-01), plus $3.5M 2002 club option (picked up 11/01)
    o 00:$2.5M, 01:$3M
    * agent: Michael Watkins
    * ML service: 14.079

    Mike Stanton p
    2 years/$5.5M (2007-08), plus $2.5M 2009 club option

    * signed as a free agent 11/06
    * 07:$2M, 08:$3M, 09:$2.5M club option ($0.5M buyout)
    * 2009 option guaranteed at $2.75M with 140 appearances 2007-08
    * 1 year/$1M (2006), signed as a free agent 12/05
    * 3 years/$9M (2003-05)
    o 03:$2M, 04:$3M, 05:$4M
    o signed as a free agent 7/05
    o DFA 6/05
    o Mets paid $0.975M of $4M 2005 salary in 12/04 trade to Yankees
    * 3 years/$7.35M (2000-02)
    o 00:$2.4M, 01:$2.45M, 02:$2.5M
    * ML service: 17.039

    David Ross c
    2 years/$4.5M (2007-08), plus $3.5M 2009 club option

    * re-signed 1/07 (avoided arbitration)
    * 07:$1.6M, 08:$2.525M, 09:$3.5M club option ($0.375M buyout)
    * 1 year/$0.5M (2006), re-signed 12/05
    o $25,000 performance bonus for starting 85 games
    * 1 year/$0.3385M (2005), re-signed 2/05
    * 1 year/$0.31M (2004), re-signed 3 /04
    * ML service: 4.001

    Scott Hatteberg c-1b
    1 year/$1.65M (2007), plus $1.85M club option

    * signed extension 7/06
    * 07:$1.5M, 08:$1.85M club option ($0.15M buyout)
    * $0.15M annually in possible incentives
    o $50,000 each for 500, 550 & 600 PAs
    * with 500 PAs in 2007, 2008 club option to $2M with a $0.175M buyout
    * 1 year/$0.75M (2006)
    o signed as a free agent 2/06
    o may earn $0.25M in incentives based on PAs
    * 2 years/about $5M (2004-05), plus 2006 club option
    o A's declined $2.7M 2006 club option 11/05
    o received unspecified signing bonus 2004, signed 7/03
    o 04:$2.3M, 05:$2.45M, 06: club option at about $2.7M
    * 1 year/$1M (2002), plus $1.4M 2003 club option (picked up 10/02)
    * 1 year/$1.05M (2001)
    * ML service: 10.070

    Javier Valentin c
    1 year/$1.325M (2007), plus $1.3M 2008 club option

    * signed extension 8/06
    * 07:$1.25M, 08:$1.3M club option ($75,000 buyout)
    * 2008 option may increase to
    o $1.35M, with 250 plate appearances in 2007
    o $1.4M, with 300 plate appearances in 2007
    * 1 year/$1.15M (2006)
    o re-signed 1/06 (avoided arbitration)
    * 1 year/$0.45M (2005), re-signed 11/04
    * 1 year/$0.5M (2004) (minor-league contract), signed as a free agent 1/04
    * 1 year/$0.305M (2003)
    * ML service: 6.036

    Juan Castro inf
    2 years/$2M (2007-08), plus $1.1M 2009 club option

    * signed extension 9/06, replacing 2007 club option
    o 07:$0.925M, 08:$0.975M, 09:$1.1M club option ($0.1M buyout)
    o performance bonuses: $50,000 each for 400, 450 & 500 PAs
    * 2 years/$2.05M (2005-06), plus $1M 2007 club option
    o 05:$1M, 06:$1M, 07:$1M club option ($50,000 buyout)
    o option voids with 500 PAs in 2006
    o 2007 option may increase to $1.2M & buyout to $0.1M
    o $0.25M in performance bonuses in 2005 & 2006
    + $25,000 each for 300 & 350 PAs
    + $50,000 each for 400 & 450 PAs
    + $0.1M for 500 PAs
    o signed as a free agent 11/04
    * 1 year/$1M (2004)
    * 1 year/$0.8M (2003)
    * 1 year/$0.4M (2002)
    * agent: Oscar Suarez
    * ML service: 10.024

    Mark Bellhorn 2b
    1 year (2007)

    * contract purchased 7/31/07
    * signed as a free agent 1/07 (minor-league contract)
    * 1 year/$0.8M (2006)
    o released (by San Diego) 10/06
    o signed as a free agent 12/05
    * 1 year/$2.75M (2005), re-signed 1/05, avoided arbitration
    o free agent 10/05 after declining outright assignment to AAA
    o signed as a free agent 8/05 after being waived, DFA (by Boston)
    * 1 year/$0.49M (2004), re-signed as a free agent 11/03
    * 1 year/$0.365M (2003)
    * ML service: 6.117

    Eddie Guardado p
    1 year/$0.5M (2007), plus 2008 club option

    * contract purchased 4/07
    * re-signed as a free agent 2/07 (minor-league contract)
    * 07: $0.5M on major-league roster, 08:$3M club option
    * $1.4M in roster bonuses
    * $1.2M in performance bonuses
    * 2008 option may increase to as much as $7M based on 2007 statistics
    * 1 year/$4M (2004), plus 2005 & 2006 options
    o 04:$4M, 05:$6M club option or $4M player option, 06:$6.25M club option or $4.25M player option (with about $1.25M in additional incentives)
    o acquired in trade 7/06, with Seattle paying about $2.5M of remaining 2006 salary of $6.25M as part of the deal
    o Seattle exercised $6.25M club option 11/05
    o Guardado exercised $4M 2005 player option 11/04
    o $1M annually in performance bonuses based on GF
    + $0.1M for 25 GF
    + $0.15M for each additional 5 GF (30,35,40,45,50,55)
    o limited no-trade clause allowing Guardado to block deals to 10 clubs, including Boston & both New York teams
    o signed as a free agent 12/03
    * 2 years/$3.6M (01-02), plus 03 club option (exercised 10/02)
    o 01:$1.8M, 02:$1.8M, 03:$2.7M club option or $1.4M player option
    * agent: Kevin Kohler
    * ML service: 12.141

    Victor Santos p
    1 year (2007)

    * contract purchased 7/27/07
    * contract purchased 4/07, DFA 6/29/07, sent outright to AAA 7/5/07
    * signed as a free agent 1/07 (minor-league contract)
    * 1 year/$0.5M (2006)
    o refused outright assignment (by Pittsburgh) 10/06
    o selected in Rule 5 draft (from KC) 12/05
    o signed as a free agent 11/05 (minor-league contract)
    * 1 year/$0.42M (2005), re-signed 2/05
    * contract purchased 3/04
    * ML service: 3.065

    Jorge Cantu 2b
    1 year/$0.41M (2007)

    * acquired in trade (from Tampa Bay) 7/28/07
    * re-signed 3/07
    * 1 year/$0.3558M (2006), re-signed 3/06
    * 1 year/$0.3169M (2005), re-signed 1/05
    * ML service: 2.079

    Todd Coffey p
    1 year/$0.4075M (2007)
    1 year/$0.925M (2008)

    * signed extension 4/07
    * re-signed 3/07
    * 1 year/$0.339M (2006), re-signed 2/06
    * 1 year (2005)
    * ML service: 1.160

    Edwin Encarnacion 3b
    1 year/$0.4075M (2007)

    * re-signed 3/07
    * 1 year/$0.3325M (2006), re-signed 2/06
    * drafted 2000 (9-274), $55,000 signing bonus
    * ML service: 1.085

    Brandon Phillips ss
    1 year/$0.4075M (2007)

    * renewed 3/07 (split contract paying $196,200 in minors)
    * 1 year (2006)
    o cquired in trade after being DFA 4/06
    o renewed 3/06
    * 1 year/$0.3168M (2005)
    o re-signed 2/05
    o split contract paying $162,000 in minors
    * 1 year/$0.3009M (2003) 3/03
    * agent: Levinson brothers
    * ML service: 2.022

    Matt Belisle p
    1 year/$0.39M (2007)

    * re-signed 3/07
    * 1 year/$0.3435M (2006), re-signed 3/06
    * 1 year/$0.316M (2005)
    * ML service: 2.026

    Elizardo Ramirez p
    1 year/$0.39M (2007)

    * re-signed 3/07
    * 1 year (2006), re-signed 2/06
    * 1 year (2005)
    * ML service: 1.022

    Bill Bray p
    1 year/$0.3825M (2007)

    * contract purchased 6/06
    * drafted 2004 (1-13), $1.75M signing bonus
    * agent: Bobby Witt, CSMG
    * ML service: 0.122

    Jeff Keppinger inf
    1 year/$0.3825M (2007)

    * signed 3/07
    * acquired in trade (from KC) 1/07
    * 1 year (2006), re-signed 3/06
    o DFA 12/06
    * 1 year (2005), re-signed 3/05
    * drafted 2001 (4-114)
    * ML service: 0.069 (through 2005)

    Homer Bailey p
    2007

    * contract purchased 6/8/07
    * drafted 2004 (1-7), $2.3M signing bonus
    * agent: Hendricks Sports
    * ML service: 0.000

    Jared Burton p
    1 year/$0.38M (2007)

    * signed 2/07
    * selected # 15 (from Oakland) in Rule 5 draft 12/06
    * drafted 2002 (8-248)
    * ML service:

    Jon Coutlangus p
    1 year/$0.38M (2007)

    * re-signed 2/07
    * 1 year (2006)
    o claimed off waivers (from SF) after being DFA 3/06
    o re-signed 3/06
    * contract purchased 11/05
    * drafted 2003 (19-573)
    * ML service: 0.000

    Chris Dickerson of
    1 year (2007)

    * re-signed 2/07
    * contract purchased 11/06
    * drafted 2003 (16-471)
    * ML service: 0.000

    Phil Dumatrait p
    1 year (2007)

    * re-signed 2/07
    * 1 year (2006), re-signed 2/06
    * drafted 2000 (1-22), $1.275M signing bonus
    * ML service: 0.000

    Jerry Gil inf
    1 year/$0.38M (2007)

    * signed 2/07
    * 1 year (2006), re-signed 2/06
    o acquired in trade (from Arizona) 10/06
    * 1 year/$0.318M (2005)
    o sent outright to AAA 11/05
    * ML service: 0.130

    Mike Gosling p
    1 year (2007)

    * contract purchased 6/17/07
    * re-signed to minor-league contract for 2007
    * 1 year (2006), re-signed 2/06
    o DFA 9/06
    o claimed off waivers after being DFA by Arizona 2/06
    * 1 year/$0.3175M (2005)
    * drafted 2001 (2-66), $2M signing bonus
    * ML service: 0.092

    Josh Hamilton of
    1 year/$0.38M (2007)

    * signed 2/07
    * acquired in trade (from Chicago Cubs) 12/06
    * drafted # 3 (from Tampa Bay) in Rule 5 draft 12/06
    * sent outright to minors 11/05
    * suspended indefinitely 3/04 for violations of MLB substance abuse policy
    * drafted 1999 (1-1), $3.96M signing bonus
    * agent: Casey Close
    * ML service:

    Norris Hopper inf-of
    1 year/$0.38M (2007)

    * re-signed 3/07
    * contract purchased 8/06
    * drafted 1998 (8-227)
    * ML service: 0.043

    Bobby Livingston p
    1 year (2007)

    * signed 3/07
    * claimed off waivers (from Seattle) 12/06 (MLB voided Tampa Bay's waiver claim & subsequent trade to Philadelphia)
    * 1 year (2006)
    o DFA 12/06
    o contract purchased 11/05
    * drafted 2001 (4-129)
    * agent: CSMG
    * ML service: 0.021

    Pedro Lopez inf
    1 year (2007)

    * claimed off waivers (from Chicago White Sox) 5/21/07
    * re-signed 2/07
    * 1 year (2006), re-signed 2/06
    * 1 year (2005), re-signed 2/05
    * agent: CSMG
    * ML service: 0.009

    Gary Majewski p
    1 year (2007)

    * re-signed 3/07
    * 1 year/$0.352M (2006), re-signed 2/06
    * 1 year (2005), re-signed 2/05
    * re-signed 3/04
    * returned from TOR 3/03 after being selected in Rule 5 draft 12/02
    * ML service: 2.039

    Marcus McBeth p
    1 year (2007)

    * acquired in trade (from Oakland) 4/07
    * re-signed 3/07
    * contract purchased 11/06
    * drafted 2001 (4-131)
    * ML service: 0.000

    Brad Salmon p
    1 year (2007)

    * signed 2/07
    * contract purchased 10/06
    * drafted 1999 (21-638)
    * ML service: 0.000

    Alexander Smit p
    1 year (2007)

    * signed 3/07
    * claimed off waivers (from Minnesota) 7/12/07
    * contract purchased 11/06
    * signed 2002 as amateur free agent from the Netherlands
    * ML service: 0.000

    Joey Votto 1b
    1 year (2007)

    * re-signed 2/07
    * 1 year (2006), re-signed 2/06
    * contract purchased 11/05
    * drafted 2002 (2-44), $0.6M signing bonus
    * ML service: 0.000


    Minor leagues

    Tim Bausher p
    2007

    * acquired in trade 8/06
    * re-signed 1/06 after being DFA (minor-league contract)
    * 1 year (2005)
    * claimed off waivers 12/04
    * ML service:

    Jay Bruce of
    2007

    * drafted 2005 (1-12), $1.8M signing bonus
    * agent: Sosnick-Cobbe
    * ML service:

    Bubba Crosby of
    1 year/$0.4M (2007)

    * sent outright to AAA 3/07
    * signed as free agent 11/06 (split contract, $75,000 in minors)
    * 1 year/$354,250 (2006)
    o DFA, sent outright to AAA 8/06
    * 1 year/$322,950 (2005)
    * 1 year/$0.3014M (2004)
    * ML service: 2.075

    Enrique Cruz inf
    2007

    * DFA 4/07, sent outright to AA 5/25/07
    * contract purchased 4/07
    * 1 year (2003)
    o selected by Milwaukee (from NY Mets) in Rule 5 draft 12/02
    * signed 1998 as amateur free agent from Dominican Republic
    * ML service:

    Johnny Cueto p
    2007

    * signed as an amateur free agent (from Dominican Republic) 2004
    * ML service:

    Rafael Gonzalez p
    2007

    * drafted 2004 (4-108), $0.315M signing bonus
    * ML service:

    Paul Janish ss
    2007

    * drafted 2004 (5-138), $0.21M signing bonus
    * ML service:

    Milton Loo ss
    2007

    * drafted 2004 (9-272) (draft & follow), $0.2M signing bonus
    * ML service:

    Devin Mesoraco c
    2007

    * signed 6/22/07
    * drafted 2007 (1-15) (Punxsatawney PA HS), $1.4M signing bonus
    * ML service:

    Chad Moeller c
    1 year/$0.7M (2007)

    * contract purchased 7/12/07, sent outright to AAA 7/31/07
    * DFA 7/3/07, sent outright to AAA 7/5/07
    * contract purchased 5/15/07
    * DFA, sent outright to AAA 4/07
    * signed as a free agent 11/06
    * 1 year/$0.7M (2006) (Milwaukee)
    o elected free agency 10/06
    o sent outright to AAA 7/06
    o re-signed 11/05
    * 1 year/$0.7M (2005), re-signed 11/04
    * 1 year/$0.37M (2004), re-signed 2/04
    * 1 year/$0.3M (2003)
    * agent: Alan Meersand
    * ML service: 5.023

    Tyler Pelland p
    2007

    * acquired in trade 8/03
    * drafted 2002 (9-268), $0.24M signing bonus
    * ML service:

    Miguel Perez c
    1 year (2007)

    * re-signed (minor-league contract) after being non-tendered 12/06
    * re-signed 3/06
    * signed 2000 as undrafted free agent from Venezuala
    * ML service: 0.028

    Kirk Saarloos p
    1 year/$1.2M (2007)

    * sent outright to AAA 7/27/07
    * re-signed 1/07 (avoided arbitration, $1.475M-$0.925M)
    * 1 year/$0.354M (2006), re-signed 3/06
    * 1 year (2005), contract purchased 4/05
    * signed as a free agent 2005 (min0r-league contract)
    * ML service: 3.135

    Ricky Stone p
    2007

    * contract purchased 7/18/07, sent outright to AAA 7/23/07
    * contract purchased 6/29/07, DFA 7/7/07
    * signed for 2007 (minor-league contract)
    * 1 year (2005)
    o signed as a free agent 11/04 (minor-league contract)
    o contract purchased 5/05, sent outright to AAA 7/05
    * 1 year/$0.395M (2004)
    o DFA 6/04, claimed off waivers (from Houston) 6/04
    o sent outright to AAA 10/04
    * 1 year/$0.325M (2003), signed 2/03
    * 1 year/$0.2M (2002), signed 3/02
    o contract purchased 9/01
    * ML service: 2+

    Drew Stubbs of
    2007

    * drafted 2006 (1-8), $2M signing bonus
    * ML service:

    B.J. Szymanski of
    2007

    * drafted 2004 (2-48), $0.725M signing bonus
    * ML service:

    Craig Tatum c
    2007

    * drafted 2004 (3-78), $0.45M signing bonus
    * ML service:

    Daryl Thompson p
    2007

    * drafted 2003 (8-237), $80,000 signing bonus
    * ML service:

    Chris Valaika ss
    2007

    * drafted 2006 (3-84), $0.4375M signing bonus
    * ML service:

    Sean Watson p
    2007

    * drafted 2006 (2-52), $0.67M signing bonus
    * ML service:

    Dewayne Wise of
    1 year (2007)

    * contract purchased 5/29/07, DFA 6/4/07
    * re-signed to minor-league contract for 2007
    * 1 year (2006)
    o contract purchased 9/06, sent outright to AAA 10/06
    o contract purchased 7/06, DFA, sent outright to AAA 8/06
    o signed as a free agent 11/05 (minor-league contract)
    * 1 year (2005)
    o sent outright to AAA 2/05
    * 1 year/$0.325M (2004)
    o signed as a free agent 1/04
    o claimed off waivers 10/04
    * ML service: 2.094

    Travis Wood p
    2007

    * signed 6/05
    * drafted 2005 (2-60), $0.6M signing bonus
    * ML service:

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    Almost all of the new found cash from Milton and ext leaving will go to arbitration raises
    Go Gators!

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    Re: Which Reds players are arbitration eligible next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeRedleg View Post
    Also, Gosling showed he only had .092 service time coming into the year. Not that it matters, because I couldn't see him getting anything anyway.

    I was getting the experience off ESPN's website. It doesn't have service time but goes by experience. So I guess if someone spent a day in the majors, that would be one year's experience. Where are you getting your info?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    I was getting the experience off ESPN's website. It doesn't have service time but goes by experience. So I guess if someone spent a day in the majors, that would be one year's experience. Where are you getting your info?
    From where WOY got his. I believe Cot's.

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    Re: Which Reds players are arbitration eligible next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Mike Gosling p
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    * contract purchased 6/17/07
    * re-signed to minor-league contract for 2007
    * 1 year (2006), re-signed 2/06
    o DFA 9/06
    o claimed off waivers after being DFA by Arizona 2/06
    * 1 year/$0.3175M (2005)
    * drafted 2001 (2-66), $2M signing bonus
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    Re: Which Reds players are arbitration eligible next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed View Post
    Almost all of the new found cash from Milton and ext leaving will go to arbitration raises
    Belisle and Phillips will get all that money? That seems a bit steep.

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    Re: Which Reds players are arbitration eligible next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeRedleg View Post
    Belisle and Phillips will get all that money? That seems a bit steep.
    Hey..the Reds aren't made of money
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    Re: Which Reds players are arbitration eligible next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeRedleg View Post
    Belisle and Phillips will get all that money? That seems a bit steep.
    No, but add in the raises for Arroyo and Harang which is over 5 million and Miltons money is already gone.

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    Re: Which Reds players are arbitration eligible next year?

    Just want to provide WoY's source for everybody: http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/200...i-reds_24.html

    Very well organized, great info.
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    Re: Which Reds players are arbitration eligible next year?

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    From where WOY got his. I believe Cot's.

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    Re: Which Reds players are arbitration eligible next year?

    This is what I'm seeing. It looks like there should be plenty of money to go around, even without a bump in payroll. A slight bump would be enough to retain all players under contract with raises to Phillips and Belisle ($5M? total) and a signing of a quality free agent.


    Raises:
    Dunn +$2.5 M (I think he's at $10.5M this year)
    Harang +$2.5 M
    Freel +$1.3 M
    Gonzo +$1.125 M
    Stanton +$1 M
    Ross +$925 K
    Coffey +$570 K
    Weathers +$500 K
    Hatteberg +$350 K (if option is picked up)
    Castro +$50 K
    Valentin +$50 K (if option is picked up)

    Raises per arbitration:
    Phillips ?
    Belisle ?

    So far, that adds up to $10.870 M in raises + Phillips and Belisle. That's with picking up the options on Hatteberg and Valentin (doubtful for both). As for Arroyo, I show him at $3.8 M for 2007 and $3.95 M for 2008, before going to $9.5 M in 2009, so only see him getting a raise of $150 K for 2008. I'm sure this is wrong.


    Now coming off the books:

    Milton -$9 M
    Lohse - $4.2 M
    LaRue -$2.95 M
    Cormier -$2.25M
    Conine -$2M
    Saarloos -$1.2 M
    Moeller -$700 K

    total: -$21.6 M



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    Re: Which Reds players are arbitration eligible next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeRedleg View Post
    Now coming off the books:

    Milton -$9 M
    Lohse - $4.2 M
    LaRue -$2.95 M
    Cormier -$2.25M
    Conine -$2M
    Saarloos -$1.2 M
    Moeller -$700 K

    total: -$21.6 M



    Please feel free to let me know of any errors I have made.
    So there is about $10 mil open if we don't raise the bar at all.


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