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Thread: My Top 20 Prospects

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    My Top 20 Prospects

    Please tell me what you think of this list. Personally I think the Reds have alot of talent in the minors, more than people give them credit for.

    1. Jay Bruce
    2. Johnny Cueto
    3. Homer Bailey
    4. Joey Votto
    5. Josh Roenicke
    6. Marcus McBeth
    7. Pedro Viola
    8. Daniel Dorn
    9. Travis Wood
    10. Justin Turner
    11. Drew Stubbs
    12. Brandon Waring
    13. Matt Maloney
    14. Todd Frazier
    15. Chris Valaika
    16. Alexander Smit
    17. Matt Maloney
    18. Carlos Guevara
    19. Neftali Soto
    20. Chris Heisey

    Devin Mesaraco is 21st, I just don't know about him yet. He just isn't hitting for power or for that matter at all. He is walking some so that is good but 4 XBH isn't very sexy.

    Anyone else think the Reds got a bright future with the talent in the minors?

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    Re: My Top 20 Prospects

    Very different from my top 20....

    You sure like relievers, I will say that much. It also looks like you are basing your rankings off of performance with very little to no value of upside in the equation.

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    Re: My Top 20 Prospects

    You also have Maloney listed twice. (#13 and #17 - he's not that good. )

    I'm with doug. Looks like your list is based off of performance w/o taking upside into consideration (w/ the possible exception of Stubbs).
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    Re: My Top 20 Prospects

    You put Matt Maloney at both #13 and #17. I hadn't realized he had been cloned.

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    Re: My Top 20 Prospects

    Sean Watson and Juan Francisco have to be in the Top 10. Daryl Thompson is missing as well. McBeth and Viola are way too high.
    Go BLUE!!!

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    Re: My Top 20 Prospects

    Where is Carlos Fisher? I have him at 5 and Maloney at 6.
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    Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS

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    Re: My Top 20 Prospects

    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    Where is Carlos Fisher? I have him at 5 and Maloney at 6.
    Wow, where was I on Fisher being left off?

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    Re: My Top 20 Prospects

    It seems both Red Leader and I noticed you had Maloney twice at about the same time; I guess that was a misprint.

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    Re: My Top 20 Prospects

    1. Jay Bruce
    2. Homer Bailey
    3. Johnny Cueto
    4. Joey Votto
    5. Devin Mesoraco
    6. Matt Maloney
    7. Drew Stubbs
    8. Juan Francisco
    9. Travis Wood
    10. Josh Roenicke
    11. Sean Watson
    12. Todd Frazier
    13. Chris Valaika
    14. Carlos Fisher
    15. Marcus McBeth
    16. Neftali Soto
    17. Alexander Smit
    18. Justin Turner
    19. Justin Reed
    20. Daryl Thompson

    Since you asked...

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    Re: My Top 20 Prospects

    1 - Bruce
    2 - Bailey
    3 - Cueto
    4 - Votto
    5 - Chris Valaika
    6 - Juan Francisco
    7 - Matt Maloney
    8 - Phil Dumatrait
    9 - Sean Watson
    10-Neftali Soto
    11-Rafael Gonzalez
    12-Danny Dorn
    13-Devin Mesoraco
    14-Drew Stubbs
    15-Craig Tatum
    16-Todd Frazier
    17-Sam LeCure
    18-Marcus MCBeth
    19-Tyler Pelland
    20-Travis Wood, Justin Turner and Carlos Fisher - tie

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    Re: My Top 20 Prospects

    Three points: 1. Is anybody worried that Joey Votto's power numbers are way off this year from last? He is not at the moment getting the ratio of extra base hits for times to the plate that one would expect from a top prospect. and 2. I think Adam Rosales is seriously underappreciated. Almost 50% of his hits are for extra bases, he gets an extra base hit one in 8 times to the plate (even better than Brendan Harris's 1 in 9 last year, something that certainly predicted the success he's had this year), and he walks about 1 in 10--thus will pretty consistently get a hundred point pop in his OBP and always a relatively high slugging average--which together equal good OPS. 3. Would be interesting to compare these lists to some from several years ago to see if the system is making progress--or just how it is. My sense is that it is--and that in fact it has under both O'B and Krivsky.

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    Re: My Top 20 Prospects

    I am winging this here.... but here is how I would go for the Reds top 20 prospects as of today.
    1. Jay Bruce
    2. Homer Bailey
    3. Joey Votto
    4. Johnny Cueto
    5. Travis Wood
    6. Chris Valaika
    7. Todd Frazier
    8. Carlos Fisher
    9. Sean Watson
    10. Devin Mesoraco
    11. Juan Francisco
    12. Drew Stubbs
    13. Neftali Soto
    14. Danny Dorn
    15. Justin Turner
    16. Josh Roenicke
    17. Scott Carroll
    18. Kyle Lotzkar
    19. Craig Tatum
    20. Marcus McBeth

    winged that one, so maybe I missed someone in there and past the top 12 or so things could be switched around quite a bit.

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    Re: My Top 20 Prospects

    Quote Originally Posted by HokieRed View Post
    1. Is anybody worried that Joey Votto's power numbers are way off this year from last?
    If you are then that makes at least two of us.

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    Re: My Top 20 Prospects

    You missed Maloney, and possibly Thompson who would merit consideration for top 20, but hardly a lock.

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    Re: My Top 20 Prospects

    Kearns, if that was to me.... then yes, I did miss Maloney. Thompson, I left out intentionally. He would be in the next 10 for sure, but not in the top 20 for me. Maloney probably slides in at 16 or 17 for me.


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