"The guy I think could be really good in center is Adam Dunn. If someone asked me if Dunn could be a center fielder for the next 10 years, if he started working on it, no one could explain to me why he couldn’t do it." - Brad Kullman
It looks like Valaika has taken a huge dive on a lot of people's lists. I know he did on mine.
1. Homer Bailey
2. Jay Bruce
3. Joey Votto
4. Johnny Cueto
5. Devin Mesaraco
6. Drew Stubbs
7. Todd Frazier
8. Carlos Fisher
9. Neftali Soto
10. Sean Watson
11. Travis Wood
12. Matt Maloney
13. Marcus McBeth
14. Alex Smit
15. Kyle Lotzkar
16. Justin Turner
17. Josh Roenicke
18. Chris Valaika
19. Scott Carroll
20. Zack Cozart/Brandon Waring/Juan Fancisco
21. Ty Pelland/Pedro Viola/Brad Salmon/Carlos Guevara
22. Chris Heisey/Dan Dorn
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I'm a little different. I value some success at high levels and refuse to include players with little or no time beyond the short season leagues unless its an obvious guy to include like Bailey was. The closest to making the list from this year's class were Soto, Frazier and Waring.
Just Missed but interesting: Guevara, Tatum, Thompson, Perez, Dumatrait, Medina, Mateo, Geronimo, Smit, Jukich, Cumberland, Asadoorian, Rojas, Heisey, Turner
Not Eligible: Livingston, Cantu, Bray, Hamilton, Elizardo Ramirez, Coutlangus
Biggest Drops left off the list intentionally: Stubbs, Janish, Strait
Too young and at too low a level to be ranked but may appear in 2008: Soto, Frazier, Mesoraco, Waring, Chiu, Lotzkar, Jones
Last edited by mth123; 08-08-2007 at 04:27 AM.
"All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH
Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS
I have to say I agree with you on the value of success. Its fun to rank players on potential/ceiling and sometimes that's why they get drafted but once they sign their first professional contract, very little consideration is given to their ceiling with respect to getting promoted. Promotions are seldom based on ceiling and almost always based on performance (with the occasional promo to fill in for an injury). And, I've never heard of anyone ever making it to the majors because the front office thought the guy had a high ceiling. So, in my mind, once we get passed the draft, the players should be ranked based on the same criteria used to promote them.
Last edited by Triples; 08-08-2007 at 08:13 AM.
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona. Not all holes, or games, are created equal. ~George Will
Five bonus picks -- 21 R.Gonzalez; 22. McBeth 23. Soto 24. Salmon 25. Asadoorian
Guys under 19 years old who I hardly know about were excluded as were guys with substantial MLB experience like Cantu. Players in the majors now excluded, like Dumatrait.
Last edited by Kc61; 08-08-2007 at 09:52 AM.
I agree with you mth on dropping players with little success beyond rookie ball, unless they have an enormous pedigree. Thus, here is my list:
1. Jay Bruce
2. Homer Bailey
3. Joey Votto
4. Johnny Cueto
5. Travis Wood
6. Matt Maloney
7. Carlos Fisher
8. Sean Watson
9. Juan Francisco
10. Daryl Thompson
11. Josh Roenicke
12. Todd Frazier
13. Chris Valaika
14. Justin Turner
15. Drew Stubbs
16. Daniel Dorn
17. Devin Mesoraco
18. Chris Dickerson
19. Neftali Soto
20. Brandon Waring
JUST MISSING THE CUT
I like to make the young guys earn it.
Last edited by Benihana; 08-08-2007 at 11:14 AM.
16. M. Perez
19. K. Jones
30. M. Perez
35. K. Jones
One quick question:
Why is Bruce higher than Bailey on almost every list?
Francisco at Dayton is getting a lot of notice on these lists. I listed him at 19. He has shown excellent power so far, only 20 years old. Couple of red flags though -- .741 OPS with low OBP of .302. 127 Ks and 21 walks. 22 errors.
Last edited by Kc61; 08-08-2007 at 12:48 PM.
'When I'm not longer rapping, I want to open up an ice cream parlor and call myself Scoop Dogg.'
-Snoop on his retirement
Your Mom is happy.
I know I rated the relievers a little high but those guys are putting up awesome numbers.
Any reason why Viola isn't getting a lot of votes for top 20? I have only been following the minors for about 2 years so some of these guys I don't know what there potential is.