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    Non-pitching propects ratings (categorized)

    When attempting to rate prospects the other day, I thought it was extremely difficult trying to figure out how one player should be rated above another, so it got me thinking. What if we could categorize all the prospects? It would make it easier to view the system we all so love to follow by sorting them out into categories such as age, level, position, etc.

    I have given each prospect a rating - 2*, 3*, 4*, and 5*. There is no need to rate anyone as a 1*, as they should not be included on the list and wouldn't be considered a prospect anyway. So far, I have only rated the "position" players. Eventually, I will rate the pitchers within the system and then mix them in with the position players to come up with a master list, if you will. All told, I found 30 non-pitching "prospects" within the system that I felt deserved a rating of 2* and above. To at least get a 2*, a prospect needed significant playing time this year, success in past years, or a pretty high draft position. Don't get me wrong, just because a prospect has a 2* rating doesn't mean that can't change. As all of you know, this isn't really an exact science, especially since I have not seen most of these prospects play and I only have their numbers, age, and other sources to go on.

    So, enjoy. Feel free to let me know if you think I'm missing something or if you think a prospect is not rated properly. Thanks.

    -BuckeyeRedleg

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    Rating - grouped by age:

    20 & under
    (5*) Bruce, of...20.4, Louisville -AAA .947 OPS
    (4*) Mesoraco, c...18, GCL-Rookie .617 OPS
    (4*) Soto, ss...18, GCL-Rookie .820 OPS
    (4*) Francisco, 3b/1b...20.2, Dayton (low A) .736 OPS
    (3*) Reed, of...19.9, GCL-Rookie .827 OPS (combined GCL, Billings)

    21-22
    (4*) Frazier, ss/3b...21.7, Billings (Rookie) .814 OPS
    (4*) Waring, 3b...21.8, Billings (Rookie) .911OPS
    (3*) Long, c...21.4, Billings (Rookie) .848 OPS
    (3*) K. Jones, of...21.11, Dayton (low A) .832 OPS (combined Dayton, Billings)
    (2*) Bartles, 2b...21.0, Billings (Rookie) .877 OPS

    22-23
    (4*) Valaika, 3b/2b...22.0, Sarasota (hi A) .664 OPS (.847 @ Dayton-low A)
    (4*) Stubbs, cf...22.11, Dayton (low A) .744 OPS
    (3*) Heisey, of...22.8, Sarasota (hi A) .932 OPS (.785 @ Dayton-low A)
    (4*) Turner, 2b...22.9, Dayton (low A) .809
    (3*) Cozart, ss...22.0, Dayton (low A) .628
    (2*) Menchaca, of...22.4, Billings (Rookie) .816 OPS
    (2*) McKennon, 1b...22.5, Billings (Rookie) .925 OPS
    (2*) Maunus, of...22.6, Billings (Rookie) .826 OPS

    23-24
    (5*) Votto, 1b...23.11, Louisville -AAA .853 OPS
    (4*) Dorn, of...23.1, Chattanooga-AA 1.066 OPS (.815 OPS @ Sarasota-hi A)
    (3*) Parker, 1b...23.1, Dayton (low A) .788 OPS
    (2*) Griffin, 2b/3b...23.10, Sarasota (hi A) .767 OPS

    24-25
    (3*) Tatum, c...24.5, Chattanooga-AA .701 OPS (.873 OPS @ Sarasota-hi A)
    (3*) Rosales, util, of...24.3, Chattanooga-AA .826 OPS (.881 OPS @ Sarasota-hi A)
    (3*) Janish, ss...24.10, Louisville -AAA .553 OPS (.688 OPS @ Chattanooga-AA)
    (2*) Anderson, 2b...24.6, Chattanooga-AA .707 OPS
    (2*) Szymanski, cf...24.10, Sarasota (hi A) .686 OPS
    (2*) Strait, of...24.4, Sarasota (hi A) .663 OPS
    (2*) DeJesus, 2b...24.1, Sarasota (hi A) .709 OPS

    25-26
    (3*) Dickerson, of...20.4, Louisville -AAA

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    Rating - grouped by team (level):

    Louisville-AAA
    (5*) Bruce, of...20.4, Louisville -AAA .947 OPS
    (5*) Votto, 1b...23.11, Louisville -AAA .853 OPS
    (3*) Dickerson, of...20.4, Louisville -AAA
    (3*) Janish, ss...24.10, Louisville -AAA .553 OPS (.688 OPS @ Chattanooga-AA)

    Chattanooga-AA
    (4*) Dorn, of...23.1, Chattanooga-AA 1.066 OPS (.815 OPS @ Sarasota-hi A)
    (3*) Tatum, c...24.5, Chattanooga-AA .701 OPS (.873 OPS @ Sarasota-hi A)
    (3*) Rosales, util, of...24.3, Chattanooga-AA .826 OPS (.881 OPS @ Sarasota-hi A)
    (2*) Anderson, 2b...24.6, Chattanooga-AA .707 OPS

    Sarasota-High A
    (4*) Valaika, 3b/2b...22.0, Sarasota (hi A) .664 OPS (.847 @ Dayton-low A)
    (3*) Heisey, of...22.8, Sarasota (hi A) .932 OPS (.785 @ Dayton-low A)
    (2*) Griffin, 2b/3b...23.10, Sarasota (hi A) .767 OPS
    (2*) Szymanski, cf...24.10, Sarasota (hi A) .686 OPS
    (2*) Strait, of...24.4, Sarasota (hi A) .663 OPS
    (2*) DeJesus, 2b...24.1, Sarasota (hi A) .709 OPS

    Dayton-Low A
    (4*) Francisco, 3b/1b...20.2, Dayton (low A) .736 OPS
    (4*) Stubbs, cf...22.11, Dayton (low A) .744 OPS
    (4*) Turner, 2b...22.9, Dayton (low A) .809
    (3*) Parker, 1b...23.1, Dayton (low A) .788 OPS
    (3*) K. Jones, of...21.11, Dayton (low A) .832 OPS (combined Dayton, Billings)
    (3*) Cozart, ss...22.0, Dayton (low A) .628

    Billings-Rookie
    (4*) Frazier, ss/3b...21.7, Billings (Rookie) .814 OPS
    (4*) Waring, 3b...21.8, Billings (Rookie) .911OPS
    (3*) Long, c...21.4, Billings (Rookie) .848 OPS
    (2*) Menchaca, of...22.4, Billings (Rookie) .816 OPS
    (2*) McKennon, 1b...22.5, Billings (Rookie) .925 OPS
    (2*) Maunus, of...22.6, Billings (Rookie) .826 OPS
    (2*) Bartles, 2b...21.0, Billings (Rookie) .877 OPS

    Sarasota-Rookie
    (4*) Mesoraco, c...18, GCL-Rookie .617 OPS
    (4*) Soto, ss...18, GCL-Rookie .820 OPS
    (3*) Reed, of...19.9, GCL-Rookie .827 OPS (combined GCL, Billings)

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    Rating - grouped by experience:

    Year 1 (drafted or signed in 2007)

    (4*) Mesoraco, c...18, GCL-Rookie .617 OPS
    (4*) Frazier, ss/3b...21.7, Billings (Rookie) .814 OPS
    (4*) Soto, ss...18, GCL-Rookie .820 OPS
    (4*) Waring, 3b...21.8, Billings (Rookie) .911OPS
    (3*) Cozart, ss...22.0, Dayton (low A) .628
    (2*) Bartles, 2b...21.0, Billings (Rookie) .877 OPS
    (2*) Menchaca, of...22.4, Billings (Rookie) .816 OPS
    (2*) Maunus, of...22.6, Billings (Rookie) .826 OPS


    Year 2 (drafted or signed in 2006)

    (4*) Francisco, 3b/1b...20.2, Dayton (low A) .736 OPS
    (4*) Valaika, 3b/2b...22.0, Sarasota (hi A) .664 OPS (.847 @ Dayton-low A)
    (4*) Dorn, of...23.1, Chattanooga-AA 1.066 OPS (.815 OPS @ Sarasota-hi A)
    (4*) Turner, 2b...22.9, Dayton (low A) .809
    (4*) Stubbs, cf...22.11, Dayton (low A) .744 OPS
    (3*) Heisey, of...22.8, Sarasota (hi A) .932 OPS (.785 @ Dayton-low A)
    (3*) Reed, of...19.9, GCL-Rookie .827 OPS (combined GCL, Billings)
    (3*) Parker, 1b...23.1, Dayton (low A) .788 OPS
    (3*) Long, c...21.4, Billings (Rookie) .848 OPS
    (3*) K. Jones, of...21.11, Dayton (low A) .832 OPS (combined Dayton, Billings)
    (2*) McKennon, 1b...22.5, Billings (Rookie) .925 OPS



    Year 3 (drafted or signed in 2005)

    (5*) Bruce, of...20.4, Louisville -AAA .947 OPS
    (3*) Rosales, util, of...24.3, Chattanooga-AA .826 OPS (.881 OPS @ Sarasota-hi A)
    (2*) Griffin, 2b/3b...23.10, Sarasota (hi A) .767 OPS
    (2*) DeJesus, 2b...24.1, Sarasota (hi A) .709 OPS



    Year 4 (drafted or signed in 2004)

    (3*) Tatum, c...24.5, Chattanooga-AA .701 OPS (.873 OPS @ Sarasota-hi A)
    (3*) Janish, ss...24.10, Louisville -AAA .553 OPS (.688 OPS @ Chattanooga-AA)
    (2*) Anderson, 2b...24.6, Chattanooga-AA .707 OPS
    (2*) Strait, of...24.4, Sarasota (hi A) .663 OPS
    (2*) Szymanski, cf...24.10, Sarasota (hi A) .686 OPS



    Year 5 (drafted or signed in 2003)

    (3*) Dickerson, of...20.4, Louisville -AAA



    Year 6 (drafted or signed in 2002)

    (5*) Votto, 1b...23.11, Louisville -AAA .853 OPS

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    Rated - grouped by position

    Catcher
    (4*) Mesoraco, c...18, GCL-Rookie .617 OPS
    (3*) Tatum, c...24.5, Chattanooga-AA .701 OPS (.873 OPS @ Sarasota-hi A)
    (3*) Long, c...21.4, Billings (Rookie) .848 OPS

    First Base
    (5*) Votto, 1b...23.11, Louisville -AAA .853 OPS
    (4*) Francisco, 3b/1b...20.2, Dayton (low A) .736 OPS
    (3*) Parker, 1b...23.1, Dayton (low A) .788 OPS
    (2*) McKennon, 1b...22.5, Billings (Rookie) .925 OPS

    Second Base
    (4*) Turner, 2b...22.9, Dayton (low A) .809
    (2*) Anderson, 2b...24.6, Chattanooga-AA .707 OPS
    (2*) Griffin, 2b/3b...23.10, Sarasota (hi A) .767 OPS
    (2*) DeJesus, 2b...24.1, Sarasota (hi A) .709 OPS
    (2*) Bartles, 2b...21.0, Billings (Rookie) .877 OPS

    Third Base
    (4*) Valaika, 3b/2b...22.0, Sarasota (hi A) .664 OPS (.847 @ Dayton-low A)
    (4*) Frazier, ss/3b...21.7, Billings (Rookie) .814 OPS
    (4*) Waring, 3b...21.8, Billings (Rookie) .911OPS

    Shortstop
    (4*) Soto, ss...18, GCL-Rookie .820 OPS
    (3*) Janish, ss...24.10, Louisville -AAA .553 OPS (.688 OPS @ Chattanooga-AA)
    (3*) Cozart, ss...22.0, Dayton (low A) .628

    Outfield
    (5*) Bruce, of...20.4, Louisville -AAA .947 OPS
    (4*) Stubbs, cf...22.11, Dayton (low A) .744 OPS
    (4*) Dorn, of...23.1, Chattanooga-AA 1.066 OPS (.815 OPS @ Sarasota-hi A)
    (3*) Dickerson, of...20.4, Louisville -AAA
    (3*) Heisey, of...22.8, Sarasota (hi A) .932 OPS (.785 @ Dayton-low A)
    (3*) Reed, of...19.9, GCL-Rookie .827 OPS (combined GCL, Billings)
    (3*) K. Jones, of...21.11, Dayton (low A) .832 OPS (combined Dayton, Billings)
    (2*) Szymanski, cf...24.10, Sarasota (hi A) .686 OPS
    (2*) Strait, of...24.4, Sarasota (hi A) .663 OPS
    (2*) Menchaca, of...22.4, Billings (Rookie) .816 OPS
    (2*) Maunus, of...22.6, Billings (Rookie) .826 OPS

    Utility
    (3*) Rosales, util, of...24.3, Chattanooga-AA .826 OPS (.881 OPS @ Sarasota-hi A)

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    Rated - Total

    (5*) Bruce, of...20.4, Louisville -AAA .947 OPS
    (5*) Votto, 1b...23.11, Louisville -AAA .853 OPS

    (4*) Valaika, 3b/2b...22.0, Sarasota (hi A) .664 OPS (.847 @ Dayton-low A)
    (4*) Francisco, 3b/1b...20.2, Dayton (low A) .736 OPS
    (4*) Mesoraco, c...18, GCL-Rookie .617 OPS
    (4*) Frazier, ss/3b...21.7, Billings (Rookie) .814 OPS
    (4*) Stubbs, cf...22.11, Dayton (low A) .744 OPS
    (4*) Dorn, of...23.1, Chattanooga-AA 1.066 OPS (.815 OPS @ Sarasota-hi A)
    (4*) Turner, 2b...22.9, Dayton (low A) .809
    (4*) Soto, ss...18, GCL-Rookie .820 OPS
    (4*) Waring, 3b...21.8, Billings (Rookie) .911OPS

    (3*) Heisey, of...22.8, Sarasota (hi A) .932 OPS (.785 @ Dayton-low A)
    (3*) Tatum, c...24.5, Chattanooga-AA .701 OPS (.873 OPS @ Sarasota-hi A)
    (3*) Dickerson, of...20.4, Louisville -AAA
    (3*) Reed, of...19.9, GCL-Rookie .827 OPS (combined GCL, Billings)
    (3*) Rosales, util, of...24.3, Chattanooga-AA .826 OPS (.881 OPS @ Sarasota-hi A)
    (3*) Janish, ss...24.10, Louisville -AAA .553 OPS (.688 OPS @ Chattanooga-AA)
    (3*) Parker, 1b...23.1, Dayton (low A) .788 OPS
    (3*) Cozart, ss...22.0, Dayton (low A) .628
    (3*) Long, c...21.4, Billings (Rookie) .848 OPS
    (3*) K. Jones, of...21.11, Dayton (low A) .832 OPS (combined Dayton, Billings)

    (2*) Anderson, 2b...24.6, Chattanooga-AA .707 OPS
    (2*) Griffin, 2b/3b...23.10, Sarasota (hi A) .767 OPS
    (2*) Szymanski, cf...24.10, Sarasota (hi A) .686 OPS
    (2*) Strait, of...24.4, Sarasota (hi A) .663 OPS
    (2*) McKennon, 1b...22.5, Billings (Rookie) .925 OPS
    (2*) Bartles, 2b...21.0, Billings (Rookie) .877 OPS
    (2*) Menchaca, of...22.4, Billings (Rookie) .816 OPS
    (2*) DeJesus, 2b...24.1, Sarasota (hi A) .709 OPS
    (2*) Maunus, of...22.6, Billings (Rookie) .826 OPS
    Last edited by BuckeyeRedleg; 08-10-2007 at 08:07 PM.


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