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    Just thought of something - 2008 draft

    It doesn't look like KC will be signing their 2007 1st round pick (2nd overall). That means they will get the pick after the 2nd pick next season.

    Wonderful...we suffer through the worst Cincy season in recent history and our reward might get diluted. Absolutely tremendous.

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    Re: Just thought of something - 2008 draft

    You can thank Bud Selig for that. KC wants to sign their pick, but they won't pay over the suggested slot price set by MLB.

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    Re: Just thought of something - 2008 draft

    Actually it's not diluted. One extra pick for first round, one extra first round talent
    The lowest acceptable payroll amount for ownership to show they are not greedy pigs is 15 million more than they are currently paying. No matter what that currently is.

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    Re: Just thought of something - 2008 draft

    Quote Originally Posted by JaxRed View Post
    Actually it's not diluted. One extra pick for first round, one extra first round talent
    Not when its a HS kid going to college. He wont be draft eligible for 3 years.

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    Re: Just thought of something - 2008 draft

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    You can thank Bud Selig for that. KC wants to sign their pick, but they won't pay over the suggested slot price set by MLB.
    Jim Callis had a good thought during his chat today...they spent $5 million on Reggie Sanders. They have no excuse. Everyone else is breaking slot, what is KC afraid of?

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    Re: Just thought of something - 2008 draft

    Jim Callis just said on his chat today, that the Royals would go for a signability pick next year at pick 2A. Because there would be no set slot to the pick and if they didn't sign the player next year they would not receive an additional pick the next year. So the guy they pick next year probably wouldn't even be a top 10 worthy pick.

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    Re: Just thought of something - 2008 draft

    i think he signs anyway, and this is moot.

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    Re: Just thought of something - 2008 draft

    On a sidenote, did anyone catch the AFLAC All-Star game the other day? I only saw the last inning when Jack Armstrong (yes, the son of that Jack Armstrong) pitched the bottom of the 9th for the East's victory over the West. Supposedly the East scored 3 in the top of the 9th to take the lead, but I missed it.

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    Re: Just thought of something - 2008 draft

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Not when its a HS kid going to college. He wont be draft eligible for 3 years.

    Good point.... College would have been "push" but not HS.... (unless he goes JUCO)
    The lowest acceptable payroll amount for ownership to show they are not greedy pigs is 15 million more than they are currently paying. No matter what that currently is.

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    Re: Just thought of something - 2008 draft

    Mike Moustakas signed, so they will not be getting the 3rd pick next season unless they earn it.

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    Re: Just thought of something - 2008 draft

    Another thought along these lines is to keep an eye on the guys the Reds didn't get signed. Let's see where the likes of Stouffer and O'neill end up going in next years draft and to whom. It should be a nice little sub-plot to the draft.
    Last edited by Mario-Rijo; 08-16-2007 at 06:42 PM.
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    Re: Just thought of something - 2008 draft

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Mike Moustakas signed, so they will not be getting the 3rd pick next season unless they earn it.
    "Earn it"??? So thats what they call losing now.

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    Re: Just thought of something - 2008 draft

    Pretty ridiculous that a team would rather sign a 5th starter for $40M but won't pony up an extra $2M for a potential ace or cleanup hitter. The whole draft system is screwed up. It's completely inefficient.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Just thought of something - 2008 draft

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    Pretty ridiculous that a team would rather sign a 5th starter for $40M but won't pony up an extra $2M for a potential ace or cleanup hitter. The whole draft system is screwed up. It's completely inefficient.
    Its not that they wont pony it up, its that a lot of teams were worried about upsetting the MLB offices who set the slot numbers. There really was nothing that MLB could do though other than be mad and maybe hold a grudge but apparently a lot of teams were scared to offer over slot money.

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    Re: Just thought of something - 2008 draft

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Its not that they wont pony it up, its that a lot of teams were worried about upsetting the MLB offices who set the slot numbers. There really was nothing that MLB could do though other than be mad and maybe hold a grudge but apparently a lot of teams were scared to offer over slot money.
    Yep. In the absence of a formally negotiated slotting system, MLB has some leverage -- there are plenty of ways the central office can make a club's life more difficult -- but only to a point. They can't outright prevent teams from going over slot lest it spawn Collusion, Episode Four.
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