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    Reds 40 man roster and next year's Rule 5 draft

    I know i'm thinking way ahead but I was looking at the current 40 man roster to see if the Reds might be in position to again take one(or more) Rule five picks next year.

    I can see at least 5 players currently on the 40 who shouldn't be during the offseason. Can anyone tell me which minor leaguer's not currently on the 40 need to be added to protect them?

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    Re: Reds 40 man roster and next year's Rule 5 draft

    Mostly guessing, but I believe Jorge Cantu, Carlos Guevara, Jesse Gutierrez, Richie Gardner would "qualify" to be selected in the Rule V draft. I am not totally sure and tried to stick with guys that I've heard mentioned as possible help from the minors. If I miss anyone I'm sure someone will add them.

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    Re: Reds 40 man roster and next year's Rule 5 draft

    Jorge Cantu is arbitration eligible, but Jesse Gutierrez, Carlos Guevara, and Richie Gardner will all be rule-V eligible unless they're added to the 40-man roster.
    I could see the Reds adding any of the following players:
    Paul Janish
    Richie Gardner
    Ty Pelland
    Craig Tatum
    Carlos Guevara
    Johnny Cueto

    As far as who they'd replace, I'd guess Eddie Guardado, Mike Gosling, Victor Santos, Ryan Jorgensen, Mark Bellhorn, and Jeff Conine.

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    Re: Reds 40 man roster and next year's Rule 5 draft

    Cantu is already on the 40 man roster.

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    Re: Reds 40 man roster and next year's Rule 5 draft

    I don't know what the service time requirement is to be Rule 5 eligible but it doesn't seem as if Johnny Cueto has been around long enough.

    Management of 40 man spots should be a consideration in deciding which, if any, players not already on the 40 should be Sept callups. The Reds will be drafting high and I'd like to save one spot on on the 40 fot a Rule 5 draftee. We might get a guy who could help in '09 and beyound.

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    Re: Reds 40 man roster and next year's Rule 5 draft

    I think it is Six years in Minors.

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    Re: Reds 40 man roster and next year's Rule 5 draft

    The first-year player draft, also known as the Rule 4 draft, was not the only draft process altered by the new CBA. The major league portion of the Rule 5 draft will be affected by giving teams one extra year to protect players from it.

    Rather than teams being allowed three years (for players signed at age 19 or older) or four years (for players 18 and younger) before leaving them off the 40-man roster subjects them to the Rule 5 draft, those periods have been lengthened to four and five. Ownership considered this a significant boost in their efforts to operate their minor league systems more effectively.
    This is from Baseball America. It would mean that Cueto is not Draft 5 eligible.

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    Re: Reds 40 man roster and next year's Rule 5 draft

    Wow, I wasn't aware of that rule change. In that case, Paul Janish and Craig Tatum wouldn't be eligible either, which would change my list of most likely suspects to (and a couple of these might really be a stretch):
    Rick Asadoorian
    Richie Gardner
    Carlos Guevara
    Ryan Hanigan
    Anderson Machado
    Ty Pelland

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    Re: Reds 40 man roster and next year's Rule 5 draft

    Here's a mini-update of who could be added to the 40-man roster to be protected form the Rule 5 draft:

    RP Rick Asadoorian
    UT Jeff Bannon
    RP Carlos Bohorquez
    IF Luis Bolivar
    IF Caonabo Cosme
    IF Enrique Cruz
    SP Dan Denham
    SP Richie Gardner
    RP Carlos Guevara
    1B Tonys Gutierrez
    IF Aaron Herr
    SP Steve Kelly
    IF Anderson Machado
    RP Justin Mallett
    RP Thomas Pauly
    RP Ty Pelland
    C Miguel Perez
    RP Ramon Ramirez
    RP Ricky Stone
    SP Camilio Vazquez
    OF Marland Williams

    (I expect a few of them to leave as Minor League free agents.)

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    Re: Reds 40 man roster and next year's Rule 5 draft

    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    Here's a mini-update of who could be added to the 40-man roster to be protected form the Rule 5 draft:

    RP Rick Asadoorian
    UT Jeff Bannon
    RP Carlos Bohorquez
    IF Luis Bolivar
    IF Caonabo Cosme
    IF Enrique Cruz
    SP Dan Denham
    SP Richie Gardner
    RP Carlos Guevara
    1B Tonys Gutierrez
    IF Aaron Herr
    SP Steve Kelly
    IF Anderson Machado
    RP Justin Mallett
    RP Thomas Pauly
    RP Ty Pelland
    C Miguel Perez
    RP Ramon Ramirez
    RP Ricky Stone
    SP Camilio Vazquez
    OF Marland Williams

    (I expect a few of them to leave as Minor League free agents.)
    Interesting. Who from that list would you want to protect? Knowing of course, someone else might have to go from the current roster.

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    Re: Reds 40 man roster and next year's Rule 5 draft

    Keep in mind too that we may want to approach the winter meetings with an open slot or two as well so we can pick up another Rule 5 player. I'm not saying that will happen, but I think they'll want a little flexibility.

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    Re: Reds 40 man roster and next year's Rule 5 draft

    My god, what would we do if we lost Ricky Stone!
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: Reds 40 man roster and next year's Rule 5 draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    My god, what would we do if we lost Ricky Stone!
    Don't worry we won't

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    Re: Reds 40 man roster and next year's Rule 5 draft

    Pelland is the only one really worth anything.

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    Re: Reds 40 man roster and next year's Rule 5 draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Austin Kearns View Post
    Pelland is the only one really worth anything.
    Yup, though I would rather the keep Guevara over some of the crap currently on the roster.


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