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    The Elizardo Ramirez Thread

    Since he is now a Reds starter, I thought I would create a thread dedicated to the Lizard. We can discuss him , his performances and his prospects to be a starter or reliever in Cincinnati. I will be watching his start tonight, and I hope he does well.

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    Re: The Elizardo Ramirez Thread

    He has to pitch well tonight because we used our best 3 arms last night to seal a 8-3 win

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    I hope he does well of course, just throw strikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muggerd View Post
    He has to pitch well tonight because we used our best 3 arms last night to seal a 8-3 win
    Did anyone else find it curious that they brought in Weathers to pitch the ninth with a five-run lead? Dunn's homer to up the lead to five came with just one out. Was it a case of not having enough time to get someone else ready?

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    Quote Originally Posted by texasdave View Post
    Did anyone else find it curious that they brought in Weathers to pitch the ninth with a five-run lead? Dunn's homer to up the lead to five came with just one out. Was it a case of not having enough time to get someone else ready?
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    5 innings, 3 earned runs so far. 1 inning short of a quality start. He has done well, he just had no offensive support. His night is done. 5 IP, 5 hits, 3 earned runs, 0 walks, 1 strikeout. I question pinch-hitting for him. He had only thrown 65 pitches in 5 innings, and he loked to be fairly effective. He probably could have gone several more innings, and I fear our bullpen is pitching too many innings. However we had been scoreless up to the 6th, and that might have been a factor
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    Re: The Elizardo Ramirez Thread

    He pitched well and of course Pete cant wait to bring in the gas cans to make it out of reach for us. Great use of the bullpen pete.

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    Re: The Elizardo Ramirez Thread

    Can we stop using every other day eddie already. Hes shown he sucks.
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    Re: The Elizardo Ramirez Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by mound_patrol View Post
    Can we stop using every other day eddie already. Hes shown he sucks.
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    Re: The Elizardo Ramirez Thread

    I believe the pivotal mistake tonight was pinch-hitting for Ramirez in the 6th. I believe after 65 pitches at the end of 5, Ramirez could have gone another 2 or 3 innings. I am really going to be interested to hear Pete defend his decision tonight. Pinch-hitting for an effective starter tonight was Narronesque.

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    Re: The Elizardo Ramirez Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by AmarilloRed View Post
    I believe the pivotal mistake tonight was pinch-hitting for Ramirez in the 6th. I believe after 65 pitches at the end of 5, Ramirez could have gone another 2 or 3 innings. I am really going to be interested to hear Pete defend his decision tonight. Pinch-hitting for an effective starter tonight was Narronesque.
    Lets not mention that he wont start hamilton against lefties but has no problem having him bat against one with the bases loaded

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    Re: The Elizardo Ramirez Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by AmarilloRed View Post
    I believe the pivotal mistake tonight was pinch-hitting for Ramirez in the 6th. I believe after 65 pitches at the end of 5, Ramirez could have gone another 2 or 3 innings. I am really going to be interested to hear Pete defend his decision tonight. Pinch-hitting for an effective starter tonight was Narronesque.
    That situation though down 3-1 Runners on 1st and 2nd. I dont know if you leave a lot of pitchers (short of Rick Ankiel or Micah Ownings with the bat) in. If Bellhorn or Hamilton does something we are right back in the game.

    Granted the screwed up use of the pen came after that I can't really argue against/for this move. Its just one that if Bellhorn comes up and hits a double to the gap scoring 2 runs then Mackanin looks like a genious, Bellhorn K's and Mackanin looks like a fool. At that point I dunno if I doubt him for that. Leaving Elizardo probalby kills any chance of a rally at that time.

    The fact that Stanton was anywhere near the field after last night and Eddie was used for the third time in 4 days (both closer to 40) over practically anyone... shows why I hope Pete is back in scouting or whereever he was before this and we get a manager thats going to put the younger guys in a place to succeed rather than throw the old and almost out the door guys in games we could win.
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    Re: The Elizardo Ramirez Thread

    We do know for a fact that taking Elizardo out kills any chance the reds have of winning though. We do know that.

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    Re: The Elizardo Ramirez Thread

    He probably could have gone several more innings, and I fear our bullpen is pitching too many innings.



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    Re: The Elizardo Ramirez Thread

    Elizardo is set to pitch Wednesday against the Dodgers. I am interested to see how he does in his second start.


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