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    Going into 2008

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    • Jeff Keppinger has to play somewhere everyday
    • Jared Burton is a great guy to have at the back of the pen, and maybe even closing.
    • Bill Bray is a great guy to have at the back of the pen, and maybe even closing.
    • David Weathers has another year in him, especially in middle relief.
    • Josh Hamilton and Norris Hopper are a great platoon parter in CF.
    • Adam Dunn needs to be re-signed long term.
    • Am I mssing anything?


    Questions
    • How will Joey Votto do as an everyday 1st basemen?
    • When do Bruce, Cueto and Homer come up?
    • Does Pete McKanin come back?
    • Who are your 3,4,5 starters?
    • Can Brad Salmon, Jon Coutlangus, and Marcus McBeth fill spots in your bullpen?
    • Do you trade Alex Gonzalez?
    • Who do you go after in free agency?
    • Am I missing anything?
    • Can Javier Valentin catch vs. RHP?


    How about this for an opening day lineup?
    1. Josh Hamilton/Norris Hopper CF
    2. Jeff Keppinger SS
    3. Ken Griffey Jr. RF
    4. Adam Dunn LF
    5. Brandon Phillips 2B
    6. Edwin Encarnacion 3B
    7. Joey Votto 1B
    8. Javier Valentin/David Ross C

    Your thoughts.
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    Re: Going into 2008

    How long term are we talking about here with dunn?

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    I think EE will be traded to make room for Keppinger. Dunn better be back with a 5 yr deal worth 55M, I guess. I think Mckannin will get a 2 yr deal after the season. Hamilton will not platoon, he's the every day CF.

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    I wouldnt sign Dunn to anything more than a 3-4 year deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Fazio View Post
    Hamilton will not platoon, he's the every day CF.
    Not if he doesn't start learning how to hit lefthanded pitching he isn't. Plus did you ever notice how the Reds seem to score a lot of runs when Hopper's in the lineup. I know a lot of folks here are obsessed by power but I like speed and aggressivness. Hopper could do for us what Chone Figgins does for LA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutaman View Post
    Not if he doesn't start learning how to hit lefthanded pitching he isn't. Plus did you ever notice how the Reds seem to score a lot of runs when Hopper's in the lineup. I know a lot of folks here are obsessed by power but I like speed and aggressivness. Hopper could do for us what Chone Figgins does for LA.
    Chone Figgens walks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muggerd View Post
    Chone Figgens walks
    Good point. But Hopper is still in his first year. I think he'll increase his OBP.

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    Re: Going into 2008

    Entering today

    vs LHP:
    Hamilton: .230/.319/.311
    Hopper: .342/.373/.418
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    Re: Going into 2008

    I think weathers can be beneficial. Bring Burton on along and maybe work him into closing with Weathers pitching another year of 8th inning ball (unless someone else steps up)

    Keppinger, myself I would try to deal AG and play Kepp at ss.
    Work Votto in 08 at 1st and Hatt gives good bench strength.

    I would try like crazy to sign Dunn at a good deal.
    Hamilton hopefully can develope vs lefties.
    Then after Jr contract runs out, you would be looking at Bruce,Dunn and JH in the OF.

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    Re: Going into 2008

    During the 2nd half of the 1998 season, those of us who took the time to keep on watching a team going no where realized a lot of pieces seemed to be falling into place. I think the same sort of thing is happening right now.

    There are moves to be made but I hope the position players are kept entact, except that they need to do something at catcher. I am not sure they can live with Javy's defense every day for a season but I am even more certain they can't afford Ross's lack of offense just to have his defense in the line up.

    Otherwise, they need an established middle of the rotation guy with the likes of Bailey, Livingston, Ramirez, Dumatrrait, and Cueto the candidates to fill it out.

    In the pen they need one additonal guy with experience. A closer would be nice; then Stormy could go back to his 7th inning role with Burton in the 8th and Bray to fill the cracks. But if they can just get a good set up guy that should suffice.

    Would these moves make them a power house? No. But they would make the Reds Central division contenders next year. You have to walk before you can run; and that is the step they need to take instead of blowing everything up for some shot at something 2 or 3 years down trhe line.

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    Re: Going into 2008

    Dunn 3 yr...42-45 mill
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    Re: Going into 2008

    Quote Originally Posted by Chi-Town Red View Post
    Dunn 3 yr...42-45 mill
    3 years?

    4 years, 55 mil.
    Last edited by reds44; 08-19-2007 at 07:29 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi-Town Red View Post
    Dunn 3 yr...42-45 mill
    Agree with that
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    Re: Going into 2008

    Going into 2008 this is what the team should look like...

    1) Hamilton CF
    2) Keppinger SS
    3) Griffey RF
    4) Phillips 2B
    5) Dunn LF
    6) Votto 1B
    7) Edwin 3B
    8) Ross C

    SP
    1) Harang
    2) Arroyo
    3) Free Agent
    4) Bailey
    5) Livingston

    RP
    Free Agent CL
    Burton SU
    Bray MR
    Weathers MR
    Coutlangous MR
    Salmon MR
    Gosling LR

    Bench
    Valentin
    Hopper
    Cantu
    Lopez
    Ellison

    Any other suggestions?

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    Re: Going into 2008

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Sabowned View Post
    Going into 2008 this is what the team should look like...

    1) Hamilton CF
    2) Keppinger SS
    3) Griffey RF
    4) Phillips 2B
    5) Dunn LF
    6) Votto 1B
    7) Edwin 3B
    8) Ross C

    SP
    1) Harang
    2) Arroyo
    3) Free Agent
    4) Bailey
    5) Livingston

    RP
    Free Agent CL
    Burton SU
    Bray MR
    Weathers MR
    Coutlangous MR
    Salmon MR
    Gosling LR

    Bench
    Valentin
    Hopper
    Cantu
    Lopez
    Ellison
    Any other suggestions?
    What would you do with Gonzo?

    What free agent would you pick up?

    Please God no more Ellison
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