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    Re: Votto and C. Trent Rosecrans

    Quote Originally Posted by LoganBuck View Post
    Hal McCoy said the same thing as CTR on the broadcast last night.
    Hal mentioned other big league scouts said they didn't think he could hit. Hal didn't mention if they were Reds scouts or other teams'.
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    Re: Votto and C. Trent Rosecrans

    I am amazed by the complexity of the Reds front office to dismiss one of your top prospects without playing a major league game. On top of that, you downplay his abilities in the press, which makes his trade value less.

    I'm confused.
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    Re: Votto and C. Trent Rosecrans

    Quote Originally Posted by Heath View Post
    I am amazed by the complexity of the Reds front office to dismiss one of your top prospects without playing a major league game. On top of that, you downplay his abilities in the press, which makes his trade value less.

    I'm confused.
    What surprises me is that so many assume that reporters really are privy to so many things they blather on about on the 2nd inning portion of the game and on their respective blogs. Is it any wonder that WK is so tight lipped about moves the club are making.

    Now maybe it's a "cause and effect" situation: Wayne's silence evokes writers to grasp at straws for any modicum of information etc. Do they make it up out of whole cloth? I'm not saying that, but I think they take any tiny fragment and blow it up bigger than it actually is.

    It's really getting terrible about Reds town these days. I think the press plays an important role in our society, but the sports writing community surrounding this club is just getting goofy, IMO.

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    Re: Votto and C. Trent Rosecrans

    Quote Originally Posted by Heath View Post
    I am amazed by the complexity of the Reds front office to dismiss one of your top prospects without playing a major league game. On top of that, you downplay his abilities in the press, which makes his trade value less.

    I'm confused.
    Don't be!

    Its a comment in a blog with no source. He could've read it on a fortune cookie for all we know.

    I usually like CTR but an off-hand comment like this requires further explanation.
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    Re: Votto and C. Trent Rosecrans

    Quote Originally Posted by Muggerd View Post
    Hes not fine but I dont doubt he made it up. So hes more than just the messenger.
    Please stop stating your opinions as fact, especially about someone that is liked around here...heck, whether he is liked or not.

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    Re: Votto and C. Trent Rosecrans

    I glanced at the Bats schedule and see their season ends September 3rd. It doesn't appear they're play-off bound (they're 8 games back presently) and it doesn't look like the Intl League does a split season championship arrangement.

    In some ways, it really makes little sense to call Votto up until the Bats season is over. Then the ML rosters expand and he can come up for his first taste of the big leagues. To me it just seems logical to let him play out the AAA season and then make the move when the roster expands.

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    Re: Votto and C. Trent Rosecrans

    Quote Originally Posted by nate View Post
    Don't be!

    Its a comment in a blog with no source. He could've read it on a fortune cookie for all we know.

    I usually like CTR but an off-hand comment like this requires further explanation.
    Sure, but like stated earlier in the thread, Hal McCoy said the same thing on the radio broadcast the other night....

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    Re: Votto and C. Trent Rosecrans

    Quote Originally Posted by nate View Post
    Its a comment in a blog with no source. He could've read it on a fortune cookie for all we know.

    I usually like CTR but an off-hand comment like this requires further explanation.
    Yeah... "the Reds say" is kind of nebulous. WHO said? And was he speaking for the organization or for himself?
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    Re: Votto and C. Trent Rosecrans

    This may be ultra nerdy, but I sent him an email asking for clarification. We'll see what happens.
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    Re: Votto and C. Trent Rosecrans

    It would be good to clarify if he meant that WK does not see Votto as a significant upgrade over Hatte in the short term or that he does not project him as a long term solution at 1st base. The former wouldn't surprise me, but the later would.

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    Re: Votto and C. Trent Rosecrans

    The option isn't much and having Hatte here to compete with a young gun seems to be the way almost all teams go about bringing up their young guys. It would not shock me to see Votto in a Reds uniform next season nor would it shock me to see him in Louisville next season.
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    Re: Votto and C. Trent Rosecrans

    I have no clue how the front office views Votto, but the fact they didn't trade Hatty is a good indicator that the Reds plan on having him around next year.
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    Re: Votto and C. Trent Rosecrans

    Well I would bring him back next year too. His salary is way too good for him numbers to not bring him back. The problem is, do you start him at first still, or do you let him be the bat you bring off the bench who you know is going to give you that quality at bat you need late in a game?

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    Re: Votto and C. Trent Rosecrans

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Well I would bring him back next year too. His salary is way too good for him numbers to not bring him back. The problem is, do you start him at first still, or do you let him be the bat you bring off the bench who you know is going to give you that quality at bat you need late in a game?
    I think the Reds plan on starting Hatteberg at 1B again next year. They are probably going to evaluate Cantu the rest of this season to see if he can be the RH piece of the platoon (Conine's replacement). I think Votto starts the year in AAA if he's not traded this winter.

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    Re: Votto and C. Trent Rosecrans

    I don't consider Votto to be in competition for the 1B job next year, particularly considering the fact that they have played Votto in LF quite a bit in the last couple of months. The question is, who in the outfield is he projected to replace?


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