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    Can we (or should we) move the fences back at GABP?

    Honestly, I love almost everything about our (relatively) new park, with one HUGE exception: I think the outfield dimensions are an absolute joke. Most everyone else seems to feel the same way. We've all heard the Great American Small Park references and the hundreds of others.

    I know the park is backed up right against the river and the basketball arena right next door. But is there any room to move the fences back just a little bit to make it more legit? I hate knowing that others think we play in a joke of a ballpark. We are the Cincinnati Reds with as much tradition as anyone and we shouldn't be settling for park with high school (middle school?) dimensions. I can't believe the people who constructed the stadium allowed this to happen. They should have went with the exact same dimensions of Riverfront -- and they at least thought of it because they went with 404 in straight away center. But the lines and power alleys are too short. Very, very dumb and I hope something can be done about it.

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    Re: Can we (or should we) move the fences back at GABP?

    The fences can be moved for sure, the question is who is going to pay for it??

    Being in construction, I can tell you it will cost lots and lots of money!!!
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    Re: Can we (or should we) move the fences back at GABP?

    There was a question about this on reds.com in the mailbag I believe last year or earlier this year and the beatwriter seemed pretty confident that there was no way it would ever happen.

    I don't know if it's true, but I had heard they made the fences so close so that Griffey could hit more HRs. If that is true, that is absolutely ridiculous. That ballpark will be here very long after Griffey's career is over.

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    Re: Can we (or should we) move the fences back at GABP?

    Personally, I'd like to see the fences moved out some but, between the cost of the construction and the loss of the seats, I'd be really surprised if it happened. (famous shrug)

    BTW, everytime I watch a game on EI and they show a shot of a left-hand batter (from about what would be the on-deck circle) GAB looks like a minor league park with the low bleachers in right field and no upper deck. Since I've never been there, I'd like to get some input from those that have been.

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    Re: Can we (or should we) move the fences back at GABP?

    The only way the fences could be moved back is if the Reds wiped out some of the lower rows in either the moon deck or the left field terrace. Not only would that be mighty costly, but that would wipe out some pretty popular seats (especially those in the moon deck).

    Final verdict? Will never happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by remdog View Post
    Personally, I'd like to see the fences moved out some but, between the cost of the construction and the loss of the seats, I'd be really surprised if it happened. (famous shrug)

    BTW, everytime I watch a game on EI and they show a shot of a left-hand batter (from about what would be the on-deck circle) GAB looks like a minor league park with the low bleachers in right field and no upper deck. Since I've never been there, I'd like to get some input from those that have been.

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    The first dozen rows or so in the moon deck are some of the best seats in the park, IMO.
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    Re: Can we (or should we) move the fences back at GABP?

    Peter Gammons said, when asked on one of those talking head shows today, that GABP is the park that most "made him cry" when entering. Meaning that the park should have been way better in his view, what with the history and fandom of Reds baseball.
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    Re: Can we (or should we) move the fences back at GABP?

    I have always said it was way to little and I wish it was as big as Riverfront was b/c riverfront imo was perfect.The Brewers park is another park that I wish ours were more like.

    If they would change it it would'nt hurt the batters at all b/c the ball would still carry well.
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    Re: Can we (or should we) move the fences back at GABP?

    Quote Originally Posted by BoydsOfSummer View Post
    Peter Gammons said, when asked on one of those talking head shows today, that GABP is the park that most "made him cry" when entering. Meaning that the park should have been way better in his view, what with the history and fandom of Reds baseball.
    I guess he is crying a river when he walks into his beloved Fenway then. Thought is was a joke back in 1975.....until Bill Lee that is.
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    Re: Can we (or should we) move the fences back at GABP?

    Quote Originally Posted by BoydsOfSummer View Post
    Peter Gammons said, when asked on one of those talking head shows today, that GABP is the park that most "made him cry" when entering. Meaning that the park should have been way better in his view, what with the history and fandom of Reds baseball.
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    Re: Can we (or should we) move the fences back at GABP?

    Quote Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1 View Post
    There was a question about this on reds.com in the mailbag I believe last year or earlier this year and the beatwriter seemed pretty confident that there was no way it would ever happen.

    I don't know if it's true, but I had heard they made the fences so close so that Griffey could hit more HRs. If that is true, that is absolutely ridiculous. That ballpark will be here very long after Griffey's career is over.
    I heard this too, though I never could quite follow the logic if that's true. Most of Jr's HRs go way further than just over that short porch.
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    Re: Can we (or should we) move the fences back at GABP?

    The fences should not be moved, it would be a tremendous waste of money, and it certainly wouldn't help, how bout we spend cash on better pitchers?
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    Re: Can we (or should we) move the fences back at GABP?

    Is Adam Dunn the only player to hit a ball into another state?

    (Not counting the proverbial homer that landed in a railcar heading out of town, that's been told about nearly every minor league field there's ever been.)

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    Re: Can we (or should we) move the fences back at GABP?

    Take a look at this site and look at some of the comparisons, both old and new. Except for right field, we compare with Crosley (40 feet difference on right field), but then check out right field in Fenway, they're at 302, compared to our 325. I think we all got used to the doughnut shaped bowl stadiums which seemed bigger, but actually GABP's dimensions do not differ much from Riverfront's: 330 - 404 - 330, with 375 in the gaps - GABP is 328 - 404 - 325, with 365 in the gaps.

    Anyway here's the site: http://www.andrewclem.com/Baseball/Dimensions.html

    I'd love to know what the aerodynamic phenomenon is going on down at GABP.

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    Re: Can we (or should we) move the fences back at GABP?

    If you push the fences back it's only going to hurt the players that routienly squeek homers out to left field (or right field).

    So you prevent the Scott Hatteburgs of the world from getting homers, while the Dunns, JR's, Howards and Texeria's of the world contine to launch bombs into the upper reaches of either field.

    As Redsmetz pointed out the dimentions are simular to Riverfront and plenty of teams currently play in "small ballparks". I'd rather they invest the money needed to radically alter the stadium into better pitching than making a change that would only effect a minor portion of the home runs hit at GABP.
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