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    8/29/2007 Reds vs Buccos

    Gonzo back in the lineup in the 2 hole ... sweet

    Hamilton cf
    Gonzalez ss
    Griffey rf
    Phillips 2b
    Dunn lf
    Valentin c
    Hatteberg 1b
    Encarnacion 3b
    Harang p

    McLouth cf
    Bautista 3b
    Sanchez 2b
    LaRoche. 1b
    Nady rf
    Bay lf
    Paulino c
    Izturis ss
    Snell p
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    Re: 8/29/2007 Reds vs Buccos

    Does this mean the Reds are out of "win now" mode?

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    Re: 8/29/2007 Reds vs Buccos

    Quote Originally Posted by BRM View Post
    Does this mean the Reds are out of "win now" mode?
    after the Pirates finish their sweep of the Reds as guess the lose now mode will be back.

    There is really no way to describe batting Gonzo 2nd instead of Hatty, it's back to this entire breaking up the lefties theory that seems to always drive batting order placement if you are a Reds manager. Of course it won't matter if they can't get to Snell and the construction of the lineup certainly isn't going to maximize their chances.
    Last edited by flyer85; 08-29-2007 at 04:07 PM.
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    Re: 8/29/2007 Reds vs Buccos

    I just looked at the numbers, Gonzalez is 4-7 lifetime against Snell. I'm sure that played some part in the lineup construction.

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    Re: 8/29/2007 Reds vs Buccos

    L/R/L/R/L/S/L/R

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    Re: 8/29/2007 Reds vs Buccos

    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed View Post
    L/R/L/R/L/S/L/R

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    It's the most popular station in Cincinnati, isn't it?

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    Re: 8/29/2007 Reds vs Buccos

    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed View Post
    L/R/L/R/L/S/L/R

    Insanity FM is on the air.
    If it MUST be that way then freakin' put EE in the 2 hole and Gonzo 8th.

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    Re: 8/29/2007 Reds vs Buccos

    Quote Originally Posted by Razor Shines View Post
    If it MUST be that way then freakin' put EE in the 2 hole and Gonzo 8th.
    actually any choice in the 2 hole would be better than Gonzo, he needs to be the #8 hitter in that lineup.
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    Re: 8/29/2007 Reds vs Buccos

    When did we hire Narron back?
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    Re: 8/29/2007 Reds vs Buccos

    Code:
    2007 PA/Outs
    
    Hamilton          1.52
    Gonzalez          1.39
    Griffey           1.59
    Phillips          1.39
    Dunn              1.54
    Valentin          1.47
    Hatteberg         1.59
    Encarnacion       1.51
    
    Castro (Career)   1.31
    Ellison (Career)  1.34
    I must say I do find it utterly humorous that in tonight's lineup, the two hitters with the worst ratio of outs per plate appearance are both directly batting in front of the team's two best power hitters.
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    Re: 8/29/2007 Reds vs Buccos

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone792 View Post
    Code:
    2007 PA/Outs
    
    Hamilton          1.52
    Gonzalez          1.39
    Griffey           1.59
    Phillips          1.39
    Dunn              1.54
    Valentin          1.47
    Hatteberg         1.59
    Encarnacion       1.51
    
    Castro (Career)   1.31
    Ellison (Career)  1.34
    I must say I do find it utterly humorous that in tonight's lineup, the two hitters with the worst ratio of outs per plate appearance are both directly batting in front of the team's two best power hitters.
    Griffey bats third and Dunn bats fifth, Cyclone. It's like the catcher bats eighth rule. Whoever hits in front of them is arbitrary.
    There is no such thing as a pitching prospect.

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    Re: 8/29/2007 Reds vs Buccos

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone792 View Post
    I must say I do find it utterly humorous that in tonight's lineup, the two hitters with the worst ratio of outs per plate appearance are both directly batting in front of the team's two best power hitters.
    nothing like having your out machines at the top of the order.
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    Re: 8/29/2007 Reds vs Buccos

    Quote Originally Posted by flyer85 View Post
    nothing like having your out machines at the top of the order.
    They put the ball in play, usually right at people
    Go Gators!

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    Re: 8/29/2007 Reds vs Buccos

    Quote Originally Posted by vaticanplum View Post
    Griffey bats third and Dunn bats fifth, Cyclone. It's like the catcher bats eighth rule. Whoever hits in front of them is arbitrary.
    Yep, anything else would be illegal.

    BTW, PA/Outs correlates with runs per game at a 0.893 clip in the NL so far this season. BA w/RISP, for comparison, only correlates with runs per game at a 0.351 clip in the NL so far this season.

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    Re: 8/29/2007 Reds vs Buccos

    Career stats for the pitchers against the hitters (from ESPN):

    Snell vs. Reds
    Hamilton: 0 for 3
    Gonzalez: 4 for 7 with a double, 1 RBI, 1 BB and 1 K
    Griffey: 5 for 9 with 1 RBI, 4 BB and 2 Ks
    Phillips: 1 for 12 with 4 Ks
    Dunn: 2 for 14 with a double, home run, 1 RBI, 4 BB and 5 Ks
    Valentin: 8 for 13 with 2 home runs, 5 RBIs, 2 BB and 1 K
    Hatteberg: 4 for 16 with 3 BB and 1 K
    Encarnacion: 4 for 14 with 3 RBIs
    Harang: 0 at bats


    Harang vs. Pirates
    McLouth: 1 for 10 with a double, 1 BB and 4 Ks
    Bautista: 4 for 17 with a double, 1 RBI, 2 BB and 4 Ks
    Sanchez: 5 for 29 with a double, home run, 3 RBIs, 1 BB and 5 Ks
    LaRoche: 5 for 17 with 3 doubles, 2 home runs, 3 RBIs, 2 BB and 3 Ks
    Nady: 8 for 19 with a double, home run, 2 RBIs and 3 Ks
    Bay: 14 for 37 with 4 doubles, 1 triple, 4 home runs, 7 RBIs, 1 BB and 9 Ks
    Paulino: 2 for 10 with 1 RBI and 5 Ks
    Izturis: 0 for 15 with 1 K
    Snell: 0 at bats
    Last edited by CTA513; 08-29-2007 at 05:20 PM.


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