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    Hal McCoy on Dunn vs. Ryan Howard

    Hal McCoy answers his fan mail.

    Q With all the Adam Dunn bashing, has anybody compared his statistics to those of Philadelphia Ryan Howard, Mr. MVP? ó Sandy, Chicago

    A Good one. Everybody howls about Dunn's 153 strikeouts. Howard has struck out 173 times. Howard has 37 homers to Dunn's 36. Dunn has 91 walks to Howard's 85. Dunn has scored 93 runs to Howard's 78. Howard has 113 RBIs to Dunn's 96. Howard is hitting .265 to Dunn's .266. Howard is talked about as one of the National League's premier players while Dunn gets dumped on as the monthly Bum of the Month.

    Wonder if MartyB is going to still call him the Hall of Famer Hal McCoy.
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    Re: Hal McCoy on Dunn vs. Ryan Howard

    Hal talked about that during the 2nd inning of yesterday's game...
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    Re: Hal McCoy on Dunn vs. Ryan Howard

    Adam Dunn needs to not only have his option picked up but he also needs to sign a 4 year extension. Dunn, Bruce, and Hamilton will make an outfield that will be second to none in the NL in 2009.
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    There has been a noticable shift in perception on Dunner, IMO. For the most part, all of the local media are saying we have to excersize Dunn's option and pointing out how cost effective he really is. I'm not sure about Doc, but I know Fay, Trent Rosecrantz and I think others have made this case (to one degree or another). Now McCoy is on deck. Thom has said you have to excersize the option more than once (although getting on Dunn's case from time to time).

    Willie's notiable hijinks and Marty's grumpyness aside, I really think that relalitity is setting in regarding Dunn. Except for the normal crowd of dolts, of course. A 17 year old girl sitting near us at the game on Saturday hounded dunn for being "worthless" and how he was "horrable" in the field. This was after he made a running catch....?!?!?! Her boyfriend corrected her and pointed out his home runs and runs scored. While it likely effected his chances at romances, she shut up after her tirade.

    Frankly, I think people are realizing that JR's wonderfull year is not likely to repeat itself in 2008 (unfortunatley) so you better keep a big bat like Dunn's in the line up.
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    Re: Hal McCoy on Dunn vs. Ryan Howard

    Quote Originally Posted by Ltlabner View Post
    A 17 year old girl sitting near us at the game on Saturday hounded dunn for being "worthless" and how he was "horrable" in the field. This was after he made a running catch....?!?!?! Her boyfriend corrected her and pointed out his home runs and runs scored. While it likely effected his chances at romances, she shut up after her tirade.

    So you're saying the boyfriend's OBP is going to suffer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    So you're saying the boyfriend's OBP is going to suffer?
    His SLG is definatley going to take a hit since a home run appeared to be out of the question.

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    I simply don't have access to a "cares about RBI" place in my psyche. There is a "mildly curious about OBI%" alcove just before the acid filled lake guarded by robot snipers with lasers which leads to the "cares about RBI" antechamber though. - Nate

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    Re: Hal McCoy on Dunn vs. Ryan Howard

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    So you're saying the boyfriend's OBP is going to suffer?
    Not necesarily but his SLG might dramatically decline (i.e. he may get to first but don't expect him to get past it)...

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    The boyfriend is probably going to have to drop down a few sac bunts before he gets another chance to swing for the fences.
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    He needs to be more scrappy.
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    Seriously guys.... that was quality humor!

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    Re: Hal McCoy on Dunn vs. Ryan Howard

    It's amazing how the media treats you when you hit .260 instead of .230. Sadly, I really think it's that simple.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Hal McCoy on Dunn vs. Ryan Howard

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    It's amazing how the media treats you when you hit .260 instead of .230. Sadly, I really think it's that simple.
    Agreed

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    Re: Hal McCoy on Dunn vs. Ryan Howard

    Howard leads Dunn in EQA, VORP and OPS+. Dunn leads Howard in runs created, runs above position and runs above replacement player.
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    Re: Hal McCoy on Dunn vs. Ryan Howard

    Howard has more RBI, and we all know that players just have to try harder to get more RBI
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    Re: Hal McCoy on Dunn vs. Ryan Howard

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    Howard leads Dunn in EQA, VORP and OPS+. Dunn leads Howard in runs created, runs above position and runs above replacement player.
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