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    Re: 9/12/07 Redlegs vs Redbirds

    Quote Originally Posted by redsmetz View Post
    There you go, letting facts getting in the way of entrenched perceptions. Of course, the truth is, even the best hitters are "out machines" - the very best ever still failed 60% of the time.
    Alex Gonzalez is a big-time out machine. That's not perception, that's reality. Granted, he has hit pretty well in the #2 slot so far but I really wouldn't count on him continuing to hit at that pace.

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    Re: 9/12/07 Redlegs vs Redbirds

    Quote Originally Posted by redsmetz View Post
    There you go, letting facts getting in the way of entrenched perceptions. Of course, the truth is, even the best hitters are "out machines" - the very best ever still failed 60% of the time.
    For the record, here are the rankings in the NL for Reds #4 hitters:

    OPS (9th)
    SLG (7th)
    OBP (12th)
    BA (8th)
    Runs (5th)
    Hits (6th)
    HR (5th)
    RBI (7th)

    Not so great.
    When all is said and done more is said than done.

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    Re: 9/12/07 Redlegs vs Redbirds

    Quote Originally Posted by dabvu2498 View Post
    For the record, here are the rankings in the NL for Reds #4 hitters:

    OPS (9th)
    SLG (7th)
    OBP (12th)
    BA (8th)
    Runs (5th)
    Hits (6th)
    HR (5th)
    RBI (7th)

    Not so great.
    The bulk of those at-bats have gone to Brandon Phillips with Jeff Conine a distant second. That OBP is atrocius.

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    Re: 9/12/07 Redlegs vs Redbirds

    Quote Originally Posted by BRM View Post
    The bulk of those at-bats have gone to Brandon Phillips with Jeff Conine a distant second. That OBP is atrocius.
    Phillips - 70 starts in 4th spot
    Conine - 28
    Dunn - 22

    Reds OBP by lineup position (rank in NL)
    1st - .364 (3rd)
    2nd - .362 (3rd)
    3rd - .370 (10th) -- .370 looks nice, but relative to the rest of the league, not all that good
    4th - .345 (12th)
    5th - .355 (6th)
    6th - .345 (8th)
    7th - .343 (3rd)
    8th - .289 (15th) -- Ugh
    9th - .215 (14th) -- Ugh
    When all is said and done more is said than done.

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    Re: 9/12/07 Redlegs vs Redbirds

    Same exercise, but with OPS:

    1st - .819 (5th)
    2nd - .834 (3rd)
    3rd - .880 (8th)
    4th - .839 (9th)
    5th - .796 (7th)
    6th - .797 (7th)
    7th - .795 (3rd)
    8th - .706 (8th)
    9th - .454 (13th)
    When all is said and done more is said than done.

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    Re: 9/12/07 Redlegs vs Redbirds

    One last observation about last nights game, which my wife and two of our kids went to. What a lovely night for a ballgame. I hadn't really guessed the attendance, but was shocked after the game when they announced it as just over 16,000. Ouch! I know it was a school night, and I'd be interested in seeing historical data for Septembers, but wow, that's a small turnout. I commented to someone around me that, in some ways, Castellini selling half price tickets last year looks a bit wise now - they would have been better off selling another 5,000 plus tickets at half price and putting some more fannies in the seats.

    All in all, it was a nice game. I thought Arroyo pitched well and I liked what I saw from the relievers. I was surprised to look at the box score this a.m. and see we walked no one. Very nice.


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