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    Wayne gets a nod for the best trade of the year!!

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    Without further ado, MLBTradeRumors.com presents The Ten Best Trades Of 2007.

    10. 7/31/07: Brian Sabean and the Giants acquired OF Rajai Davis and a player to be named later from the Pirates in exchange for RHP Matt Morris.

    Granted, Sabean was just erasing his own mistake of signing Morris in December of 2005. And he missed his chance to truly sell high when Morris had a 2.51 ERA on June 6th. Still, Sabean managed to unload the 33 year-old Morris without paying any of the $13.5MM or so remaining on his contract. Plus, he acquired 27 year-old burner Rajai Davis. If nothing else, Davis has a future in the big leagues as a reserve.

    9. 11/15/06: Kevin Towers and the Padres acquired RHP Heath Bell and LHP Royce Ring from the New York Mets in exchange for OF Ben Johnson and RHP Jon Adkins.
    By one metric, Bell has been the sixth best reliever in all of baseball this year. Don't try to give all the credit to PETCO Park, either - Bell has a better ERA and strikeout rate on the road this year. Instead, give the credit to Towers. Meanwhile, Johnson's season was killed by injuries and Adkins has been just OK at Triple A.

    8. 11/20/06: Larry Beinfest and the Marlins acquired RHP Kevin Gregg from the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim in exchange for RHP Chris Resop.

    Would Gregg be this good back in the American League? Of course not. But the Angels did ditch a reliever with a 3.4 K/BB ratio in 78 innings last year. Granted, Gregg has been lucky on hits allowed and saves are always a large part opportunity. But Resop hasn't done much at Triple A and the Fish have a very affordable under-contract closer to shop this winter.

    7. 5/3/07: Billy Beane and the Athletics acquired Jack Cust from the San Diego Padres for a player to be named later or cash considerations.

    Cust has a line of .257/.401/.510 in 343 ABs this year. Meanwhile Padres left fielders have hit .248/.343/.449 (league average) and Orioles DHs have hit .259/.325/.424. Both clubs gave up on Cust (though the A's did before too). Bottom line: this was a whole lotta somethin' for nothin'.

    6. 7/31/2007: Jon Daniels and the Rangers acquired LHP Kason Gabbard, OF David Murphy and nonroster OF Engle Beltre from the Red Sox for RHP Eric Gagne and cash.

    Gagne turned into a pumpkin, while the Rangers picked up two useful players (Gabbard and Murphy) and a young wild card with upside (Beltre). Murphy, a former first pick, could be the Rangers' starting center fielder next year.

    Note that while it was a fine deal by Daniels, the Mark Teixeira trade doesn't make this list. In my opinion, it's not as lopsided as the rest. Teixeira has been excellent for the Braves and they have him for 2008 as well.

    5. 12/7/06: Kenny Williams and the White Sox acquired Gavin Floyd and Gio Gonzalez from Philadelphia in exchange for RHP Freddy Garcia.

    Should Pat Gillick take the blame for Garcia's injury? He did know Garcia was throwing with reduced velocity last year and had a lot of wear and tear. Williams has taken a lot of heat this year but he might've acquired 40% of his rotation for the next few years with his perfect timing on this one. The book isn't closed yet, but Williams deserves credit.

    4. 12/7/06: John Schuerholz and the Braves acquired Rafael Soriano from the Mariners in exchange for LHP Horacio Ramirez.

    The move was widely panned at the time, though I was the idiot saying it wasn't a huge rip-off. Well, it was a huge rip-off. The awful Ramirez will be non-tendered, while Soriano might close for the Braves next year.

    3. 12/6/06: Dayton Moore and the Royals acquired Brian Bannister in exchange for RHP Ambiorix Burgos from the New York Mets.

    I certainly wasn't criticizing Omar Minaya at the time of this trade. I saw Bannister as a fifth starter who'd be lucky to keep his ERA under 5.00 in the AL. And there is a strong undercurrent of luck in Bannister's ROY-caliber season. But maybe Bannister's intelligent approach (scroll to bottom of linked post) deserves some credit for the low BABIP and his 3.39 ERA. Perhaps Minaya and I just underestimated Bannister. Burgos had Tommy John surgery in August, so it'll be a while before he gets a chance to even out this trade.

    2. 12/12/06: Dan O'Dowd acquired CF Willy Taveras, RHPs Taylor Buchholz and Jason Hirsh from the Houston Astros in exchange for RHPs Jason Jennings and Miguel Asencio.

    Even at the time of the deal, most folks thought Tim Purpura overpaid. It looks much worse now since Jennings was a bust instead of the #2 some thought he could be. The fact is that the difference between Hirsh and Jennings wasn't huge in the first place, expect for salary and service time. Taveras could be Juan Pierre Plus if he can stay healthy.

    1. 12/7/06: Wayne Krivsky and the Cincinnati Reds acquired OF Josh Hamilton from the Chicago Cubs in exchange for cash considerations.

    Unbelievable, that so many of the best trades occurred around this date. Maybe that point in time inherently contains some sort of cosmic significance. Almost as if it were the junction point for the entire space-time continuum. On the other hand, it could just be an amazing coincidence.

    Anyway, I hope the Cubs received a ton of cash, because the 26 year-old Hamilton is a keeper. He'd look mighty fine in the Cubs' outfield for the next five years. What's Jim Hendry doing performing favors for a division rival? Hamilton mashed .292/.368/.554 as a rookie. Maybe only Krivsky saw that coming, but that's why we're giving him props here.

    Honorable mentions: Mets acquire Luis Castillo, Padres acquire Kevin Kouzmanoff, Royals acquire Kyle Davies, Phils acquire Kyle Lohse and Tadahito Iguchi, Nats acquire Wily Mo Pena, Padres acquire Milton Bradley, Tigers acquire Gary Sheffield

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    Re: Wayne gets a nod for the best trade of the year!!

    Some points are that it's really the D-Rays who should hold blame for giving away Hamilton. The Cubs like most other teams simply had little interest in him. It wasn't them who really gave him away.

    Also including the Brian Bannister trade as the #3 steal is a joke. Look back at this next season, and I think you have 2 very unhappy teams with the return they received.

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    Re: Wayne gets a nod for the best trade of the year!!

    Also,the Cubs didn't know that Hamilton was the player involved.

    It's not like they chose Hamilton and then decided to trade him. They simply decided to pick for the Reds for an agreed upon amount (I think $50,000). It was only at the time of their pick that Hamilton's name would have been revealed.

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    Re: Wayne gets a nod for the best trade of the year!!

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    Also,the Cubs didn't know that Hamilton was the player involved.

    It's not like they chose Hamilton and then decided to trade him. They simply decided to pick for the Reds for an agreed upon amount (I think $50,000). It was only at the time of their pick that Hamilton's name would have been revealed.
    I think it was $100,000 instead of $50,000
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    Re: Wayne gets a nod for the best trade of the year!!

    Honorable mentions: Mets acquire Luis Castillo, Padres acquire Kevin Kouzmanoff, Royals acquire Kyle Davies, Phils acquire Kyle Lohse and Tadahito Iguchi, Nats acquire Wily Mo Pena, Padres acquire Milton Bradley, Tigers acquire Gary Sheffield

    I'd have to give WK the edge there too.

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    Re: Wayne gets a nod for the best trade of the year!!

    ...and Kevin Towers didn't give anything up by trading Jack Cust as Cust can only play in the American League. He lost nothing. Towers is pretty adept at trades. Only 18 months ago getting Chris Young, Adrian Gonzalez, and Termel Sledge for Akinori Otsuka, Adam Eaton, and Billy Killian.
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    Re: Wayne gets a nod for the best trade of the year!!

    I don't know what mlbtraderumors.com list was last year, but Krivsky had to have two in the Top-10 for Arroyo and Phillips, with Phillips now looking like a possible Top-10 of the decade.

    Let's see if he can do it again over the next 10 months.
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    Re: Wayne gets a nod for the best trade of the year!!

    Quote Originally Posted by paulrichjr View Post
    I think it was $100,000 instead of $50,000
    Yeah, it was $100,000, but I don't know if it includes the $50,000 that had to be paid to the Devil Rays to draft him. It has been reported, though, that if Hamilton didn't stay on the roster, it would be the Reds who paid the $25,000.

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    Re: Wayne gets a nod for the best trade of the year!!

    Wayne can recognize talent when others think its not there, or else he's just been really lucky.
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    Re: Wayne gets a nod for the best trade of the year!!

    Quote Originally Posted by redsrule2500 View Post
    Wayne can recognize talent when others think its not there, or else he's just been really lucky.
    I hate to nitpick, but just for clarification, I think you mean "Wayne and company". I don't think Wayne Krivsky's job is so much about evaluating talent.

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    Re: Wayne gets a nod for the best trade of the year!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric_Davis View Post
    ...and Kevin Towers didn't give anything up by trading Jack Cust as Cust can only play in the American League. He lost nothing.
    He lost the ability to trade him for something valuable.

    That's an opportunity cost that has real value.

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    Re: Wayne gets a nod for the best trade of the year!!

    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    I hate to nitpick, but just for clarification, I think you mean "Wayne and company". I don't think Wayne Krivsky's job is so much about evaluating talent.
    I hate to nitpick but if the team is sinking the buck stops with Wayne, therefore to be consistent I think he should also get credit with the good.
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    Re: Wayne gets a nod for the best trade of the year!!

    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    Yeah, it was $100,000, but I don't know if it includes the $50,000 that had to be paid to the Devil Rays to draft him.
    That's correct, it was $50K to Tampa, $50K to Chicago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redsfan4445 View Post
    Unbelievable, that so many of the best trades occurred around this date. Maybe that point in time inherently contains some sort of cosmic significance. Almost as if it were the junction point for the entire space-time continuum. On the other hand, it could just be an amazing coincidence.
    Maybe it's because it is the Baseball Winter Meetings. (That's from the article, not redsfan4445)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric_Davis View Post
    I don't know what mlbtraderumors.com list was last year, but Krivsky had to have two in the Top-10 for Arroyo and Phillips, with Phillips now looking like a possible Top-10 of the decade.

    Let's see if he can do it again over the next 10 months.
    I think the Reds would have to have three of the top 10 deals of the decade, with the Phillips, Hamilton, and probably first and foremost the Jose Guillen-Aaron Harang deal (although that wasn't Krivsky)

    The only two trades I can think of that are better than the Harang deal is the Padres getting Chris Young AND Adrian Gonzalez for Adam Eaton and Otsuka as well as the Liriano/Nathan/Bonser for Pierzinskyi trade.
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