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    Re: Aaron Harang vs Carlos Zambrano

    I'll take Harang.. he's more consistent compared to Zambrano
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    Re: Aaron Harang vs Carlos Zambrano

    Harang, he seems sane
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    Re: Aaron Harang vs Carlos Zambrano

    Harang is able to keep his head in the game a lot better than Carlos.

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    Re: Aaron Harang vs Carlos Zambrano

    Without looking at the numbers, I'd go with Harrang. I know it sounds totally homer, but I think he's got a smoother delivery and certinally has a much more stable mental state. I like fire and passion but Zambranno just doesn't know how to keep himself under controll.

    Maybe the numbers will make taking AH over CZ look silly, but just on the surface, Harrang by a landslide.
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    Re: Aaron Harang vs Carlos Zambrano

    Quote Originally Posted by Ltlabner View Post
    Without looking at the numbers, I'd go with Harrang. I know it sounds totally homer, but I think he's got a smoother delivery and certinally has a much more stable mental state. I like fire and passion but Zambranno just doesn't know how to keep himself under controll.

    Maybe the numbers will make taking AH over CZ look silly, but just on the surface, Harrang by a landslide.
    The numbers posted are for this season....Harang's the guy hands down.

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    Re: Aaron Harang vs Carlos Zambrano

    Zambrano is pretty darned overrated. At this point Zambrano's raw stuff is translating to less K's than Harang. The main difference between the two guys is that Harang has far superior command, and that's the difference.

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    Re: Aaron Harang vs Carlos Zambrano

    Thom said something which makes me think why Harang is under rated.
    He mentioned Harang just seems to roll out every time 7 IP, 2 ER.

    However the fact that Harang hasn't seemed to put out that 9 IP, 0 R, 10 K performance in a while leads me to think he's been overlooked. When he has had a performance like that, he often hasn't gotten the win, (Cleveland when they won in 12, and another game which I'm forgetting.)
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    Re: Aaron Harang vs Carlos Zambrano

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Red View Post
    Thom said something which makes me think why Harang is under rated.
    He mentioned Harang just seems to roll out every time 7 IP, 2 ER.

    However the fact that Harang hasn't seemed to put out that 9 IP, 0 R, 10 K performance in a while leads me to think he's been overlooked. When he has had a performance like that, he often hasn't gotten the win, (Cleveland when they won in 12, and another game which I'm forgetting.)
    I think that is a good point.

    In today's age of ESPN highlight reels and 60-second sports segments on the news it is the one flashy play or spectacular game that gets the attention.

    The casual fan thinks the pitcher that throws a no-hitter is a great player while being unaware of the guy that produces a quality start every time. The guy that makes a catch while diving into the stands is a better fielder than the guy that makes difficult plays look easy.

    That is why poor fielders like Derek Jeter win Gold Gloves.
    That is why below average players like Ryan Freel are so popular.

    This is the era of style over substance.
    This is the era of flash over consistency.
    This is the era of image over reality.

    Aaron Harang goes out every 5th day and gets the job done like he is paid to do. He makes it look easy most of the time. He makes excellence seem routine.

    If he wants to make himself a star he should pump his fist after every strikeout. He should sprint back to the dugout after stopping a rally. He should stalk around the mound like a crazy person. He should insult other players in the postgame interview. He should throw beanballs. If he did these things he would win awards, make more money, get endorsement deals and be a superstar. He chooses instead to lead this team by example. Maybe someday the rest will follow.

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    Re: Aaron Harang vs Carlos Zambrano

    Well said, AD.
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    Re: Aaron Harang vs Carlos Zambrano

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    Well said, AD.
    I agree. No pitcher in the NL or MLB for that matter is more consistent and yet he gets no respect. The Ryan Freels of the world will pass and Harang will still be pitching 7 innings of 2-run ball. Boggles my mind.

    I had to laugh tonight at the caller to Paul Daughtery's call-in show that proposed an outfield of Hopper, Freel, and anyone else. Freel was the main guy. "Everybody in Cincinnati loves Freel." Wow. It's the perception of playing hard whether or not you accomplish anything by doing it. Delete 70 HR's and 200 RBI's from the lineup, but By God hustle and be unseccessful doing it and you are loved.

    Harang, OTOH, just does the right things without flash in a manner that doesn't call attention to himself and all the love goes to Freel and Hopper who couldn't make any other starting lineup in either league.

    I just shake my head.

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    Re: Aaron Harang vs Carlos Zambrano

    Best post I've seen in awhile AD.

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    That is one grandoise manifesto, AD.

    "This is the era of...!"

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    Re: Aaron Harang vs Carlos Zambrano

    Quote Originally Posted by AtomicDumpling View Post
    I think that is a good point.

    In today's age of ESPN highlight reels and 60-second sports segments on the news it is the one flashy play or spectacular game that gets the attention.

    The casual fan thinks the pitcher that throws a no-hitter is a great player while being unaware of the guy that produces a quality start every time. The guy that makes a catch while diving into the stands is a better fielder than the guy that makes difficult plays look easy.

    That is why poor fielders like Derek Jeter win Gold Gloves.
    That is why below average players like Ryan Freel are so popular.

    This is the era of style over substance.
    This is the era of flash over consistency.
    This is the era of image over reality.

    Aaron Harang goes out every 5th day and gets the job done like he is paid to do. He makes it look easy most of the time. He makes excellence seem routine.

    If he wants to make himself a star he should pump his fist after every strikeout. He should sprint back to the dugout after stopping a rally. He should stalk around the mound like a crazy person. He should insult other players in the postgame interview. He should throw beanballs. If he did these things he would win awards, make more money, get endorsement deals and be a superstar. He chooses instead to lead this team by example. Maybe someday the rest will follow.
    That is one excellent post concerning "style over substance". It's why I have little respect for the GG Award anymore because of the criteria they use to award it. And may I add to that ESPN's HR Derby. I never watch it. I think it's a farce.

    And look at what WK signed Harang for.
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    Re: Aaron Harang vs Carlos Zambrano

    Harang has finally gotten some notice after a very very good year last year. His problem is that he isn't flashy, doesn't have over powering heat, doesn't have mental meltdowns on the mound, and lastly he plays in cincinnati. If he played in a big market city and put up the same kind of stats he would be a cy young winner. Instead he plays in cincinnati where players are more enamored with Freel flying into walls that a pitcher who pitches well every night.


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