Bengals vs. Alka Seltzer Birds

[Yachtzee]

I agree with the idea that the Bengals need to control the clock more in order to take the heat off the defense. They simply can not afford to continually play the no huddle IMO.

Actually, the Bengals chew up a lot of clock in the no huddle. Palmer consistently brings the play clock down do the last seconds even when he's in no huddle. Sometimes I'm convinced he's going to get nailed for a delay of game penalty and he gets the snap off just in time. The problem is that the defense is so bad that the other team can immediately answer with a drive of their own. It puts a lot of pressure on the offense to be perfect because they can't afford to fail on a scoring drive.

[pedro]

Actually, the Bengals chew up a lot of clock in the no huddle. Palmer consistently brings the play clock down do the last seconds even when he's in no huddle. Sometimes I'm convinced he's going to get nailed for a delay of game penalty and he gets the snap off just in time. The problem is that the defense is so bad that the other team can immediately answer with a drive of their own. It puts a lot of pressure on the offense to be perfect because they can't afford to fail on a scoring drive.

I see what you're saying but it sure didn't seem that way on Sunday. I guess the problem really is that they threw so many times that teh clock was stopping a lot for incompletions.

[Yachtzee]

I see what you're saying but it sure didn't seem that way on Sunday. I guess the problem really is that they threw so many times that teh clock was stopping a lot for incompletions.

That can happen when they are unable to get Rudi untracked. Rudi can't get going, so they pass. Palmer lights them up early, they adjust, then the incompletions come as they start getting pressure on him. Unless the Bengals get the running game going to keep the D honest, the Bengals start to struggle.

[Redhook]

On the Hasselbeck catch and fumble, did Marvin incorrectly challenge the wrong part of the play (the fumble) and not whether the catch was made prior to the fumble? I understand the fumble not being reviewable, but the catch should have been reviewed.

If so, that would make two straight weeks that Marvin has screwed up these situations. Last week, Braylan Edwards spot, on the late first down should have been reviewed. I believe Marvin wanted to review the subsequent fumble and they told him it was not reviewable. Funny thing, he used the timeout after the Braylan Edwards first down anyway, but did not have them review the spot, which was obviously a full yard off.

You're absolutely right. That is two straight weeks Marvin has messed up these situations. He is clueless when it comes to reviewing plays. In fact, I heard he didn't even know he could review the spot last week. That's hard to believe.

I actually had dinner with a Bengal last Monday (I'd like to say who it was, but I can't). He said, in the team meeting last Monday after the Cleveland loss, the players were pretty upset about Marvin's use of that timeout and the fact that he didn't challenge the spot.

[Reds Fanatic]

It looks like Rudi may not be able to play Monday against New England. The Bengals have signed DeDe Dorsey who is a running back that was waived by Indianapolis after the preseason.

[MWM]

The Bengals are going to get slaughtered next Monday. It's going to be about as ugly as it gets.

[Caveat Emperor]

The Bengals are going to get slaughtered next Monday. It's going to be about as ugly as it gets.

The Bengals always seem to get fired up for big games while letting the run-of-the-mill stuff trip them up.

I expect Monday to be an extremely close game despite having no empirical evidence to back up my assertion.

[GAC]

The Bengals always seem to get fired up for big games while letting the run-of-the-mill stuff trip them up.

I expect Monday to be an extremely close game despite having no empirical evidence to back up my assertion.

But they may have become one dimensional if Rudi is out and their running game has taken that huge of a hit. Even though he wasn't much of a threat last Sunday, it was because Seattle prepared for that and shut it down.

NE doesn't have to be that concerned in that area now. They can give far more attention to the passing defense.

[Matt700wlw]

The Bengals are going to get slaughtered next Monday. It's going to be about as ugly as it gets.

I don't think it will be as ugly as you think, and I have no good reason why...I don't think they will win, however.


However, as screwy as the Bengals are...they'd be the team to pull off the major major upset.

[wheels]

Let's not discount them getting Dorsey back. That guy's a player, and the only reason the Colts cut him was because of turf toe.

Yes, I'm grasping at straws.

Then again, Ahmad Brooks will be back, and so will Giachiuc. If I'm Marvin Lewis, I make this an all hands on deck game. Throw everything you have at them before the bye.

[BuckeyeRedleg]

You're absolutely right. That is two straight weeks Marvin has messed up these situations. He is clueless when it comes to reviewing plays. In fact, I heard he didn't even know he could review the spot last week. That's hard to believe.

I actually had dinner with a Bengal last Monday (I'd like to say who it was, but I can't). He said, in the team meeting last Monday after the Cleveland loss, the players were pretty upset about Marvin's use of that timeout and the fact that he didn't challenge the spot.

Thanks for the info, Redhook.

This is further evidence that Marvin needs to go.

[Matt700wlw]

Thanks for the info, Redhook.

This is further evidence that Marvin needs to go.

I may agree with you (probably not yet) only if I had faith in Mike Brown to bring in anybody who could do better. He'd probably give it to Paul Alexander or Bob Bratkowski....

Sounds like the Reds, doesn't it?


You know he's not going to throw big money to a proven coach with a track record of success...

[blumj]

I don't think it will be as ugly as you think, and I have no good reason why...I don't think they will win, however.


However, as screwy as the Bengals are...they'd be the team to pull off the major major upset.

http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?showtopic=23289
They may not be good reasons...but they're reasons, if you want some.

[guttle11]

Everyone knows the only reason the Pats have been any good over the past few years is because they've been cheating and stealing defensive signals. However, the Bengals play NO DEFENSE. Secret weapon, baby!

That's freaking hilarious.

[Cedric]

I was at the game. Some terrible fans up there in Seattle and some great ones. I guess that is the way it works. I've never seen a RB go down as easily as Shawn Alexander did Sunday.

It's still amazing watching in person as Carson threads the needle. Opposing season ticket holding fans say he is the best they have ever seen. Good time.