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    Gold Glove watch...

    From Rob Butcher

    Ronnie Belliard committed an error last night. Brandon Phillips now leads all National League second basemen in both total chances and fielding percentage.

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    Re: Gold Glove watch...

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    From Rob Butcher

    Ronnie Belliard committed an error last night. Brandon Phillips now leads all National League second basemen in both total chances and fielding percentage.
    Thankfully though, Belliard is not in contention for the award either. To lead the league in % AND total chances is pretty amazing. That means he is getting to a lot of grounders that others might not and still successfully getting outs.

    Notice too, he takes a lot of IF pop ups, easy way to build the %! Keep doing it. Though calling off Edwin is impossible, he'll take some of Votto's pop ups next year.

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    Re: Gold Glove watch...

    The O Dog is a much better defensive 2B than Brandon Phillips, and should win the GG.

    While Phillips is no slouch, he's no Orlando Hudson.

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    Re: Gold Glove watch...

    I'm surprised George Grande didn't start this thread. Maybe if Brandon doesn't win it, George can at least refer to him as a "near gold glove" like he did Soriano Friday night.

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    Re: Gold Glove watch...

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlifeman21 View Post
    The O Dog is a much better defensive 2B than Brandon Phillips, and should win the GG.

    While Phillips is no slouch, he's no Orlando Hudson.
    This year the O Dog was much below O Dog Par. He was hurt a bit and that effected him. BP had a better year than Hudson, IMO.

    BP had 433 assists this year with 8 errors.
    ODog w/387 assists and 10 errors.

    BP also has the #1 zone rating. If you have the best zone rating, and the best fielding percentage, then you are ridiculously good. That is all.

    http://www.hardballtimes.com/thtstat...&Submit=Submit
    Last edited by TOBTTReds; 09-29-2007 at 09:22 PM.

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    Re: Gold Glove watch...

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlifeman21 View Post
    The O Dog is a much better defensive 2B than Brandon Phillips, and should win the GG.

    While Phillips is no slouch, he's no Orlando Hudson.
    I'll disagree with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo View Post
    I'll disagree with that.
    Likewise. Brandon is the best defensive 2b in the game, IMO.
    This is the time. The real Reds organization is back.

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    Re: Gold Glove watch...

    I'll still take Orlando Hudson over Brandon Phillips, IMO.

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    Brandon WILL win the Gold Glove... mark it down.. also ESPN showed his highlite great play to seal another Dodger shutout. his dive and off-balance throw to end the game, as the Reds best webgem of the season!!

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    Fielding theyre even thats no debate and hitting Brandon is an impact player, why one would even argue this point is laughable.


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    Re: Gold Glove watch...

    Quote Originally Posted by redsfan4445 View Post
    Brandon WILL win the Gold Glove... mark it down.. also ESPN showed his highlite great play to seal another Dodger shutout. his dive and off-balance throw to end the game, as the Reds best webgem of the season!!
    That play wasn't even Brandon's best play of 2007. I forget the opponent, but the bloop between 2B and 1B where he barehands and fires to Valentin to get the guy at the plate to end the game was his best, and IMO one of the best in the entire league in 2007.

    I'd still be very interested to see what Phillips could do at SS for a full season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highlifeman21 View Post
    That play wasn't even Brandon's best play of 2007. I forget the opponent, but the bloop between 2B and 1B where he barehands and fires to Valentin to get the guy at the plate to end the game was his best, and IMO one of the best in the entire league in 2007.

    I'd still be very interested to see what Phillips could do at SS for a full season.
    I think he would be a wonderful SS, move him to SS and Kep to 2nd, just my thought

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    Re: Gold Glove watch...

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlifeman21 View Post
    That play wasn't even Brandon's best play of 2007. I forget the opponent, but the bloop between 2B and 1B where he barehands and fires to Valentin to get the guy at the plate to end the game was his best, and IMO one of the best in the entire league in 2007.

    I'd still be very interested to see what Phillips could do at SS for a full season.
    The Pirates. That was amazing.

    I think the Atlanta game when Franecour smashed a line drive to him and he leaped and caught it and doubled up the runner at 3rd to save the game from ending (which the Reds won in extra innings) was pretty unbelievable as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo View Post
    I'll disagree with that.
    Me too. I have a ton of respect for O'Dog (I've decided to Irish up his nickname) in the field, but Phillips had a dynamite year on par with O'Dog's best.

    Phillips also had a knack for making highlight plays (do not underestimate the power of the Web Gem) and his 30/30 season on offensive reinforces the notion that he's a superior athlete in all phases of the game.

    I'd say the GG would come down to Phillips and Utley (who grades at the top in multiple defensive rating systems). Against Utley are that he missed some time, that he can't match Phillips in the speed department (which influences mass perception) and that he's pedestrian on the DP turn. Utley often pockets the ball when a baserunner is right on top of him. Nothing wrong with that, better not to throw it away. It also helps that Jimmy Rollins is handy with a quick feed the majority of the time, but I imagine a lot of players and coaches (and those are the GG voters) watch Utley and think he sometimes doesn't get the outs he could on the DP.
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    Re: Gold Glove watch...

    So are clubs permitted to send out info about their players to the voters. I think the Reds should be proactive with this sort of thing, if permitted. The should have done the same thing for Harrang last year, starting with their own beat writers who didn't even vote for him.


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