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    Reds negotiating to take back ad sales from WLW

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    Team negotiating to take back ad sales from WLW
    BY DUSTIN DOW

    The Major League Baseball playoffs are here, and for the 12th straight season the Reds aren't participating. But behind the scenes, team officials are negotiating a plan they hope will help generate money to field a more competitive team.

    The Reds want to take over advertising sales of the Reds on Radio broadcasts from WLW-AM (700) and employ a team-controlled model of marketing that proved successful here in the "Big Red Machine" days of the mid-1970s.

    WLW has controlled ad sales since 1984, when Marge Schott took over the team and relinquished sales control in exchange for licensing fees.


    By assuming control of ad sales for Reds on Radio broadcasts, the team hopes to more effectively target fans from places such as Louisville, Lexington, Columbus and Indianapolis and bring them to Great American Ball Park.

    "With higher attendance comes increased payroll, and we need to draw from all areas of the Reds Radio Network - one of the strongest networks in all of baseball," said Bill Reinberger, Reds vice president of corporate sales and marketing.

    Reinberger said an announcement is expected soon.

    Chuck Fredrick, general manager at WLW, told The Enquirer he would not comment on the deal until it is signed, but stressed that no deal has yet been agreed to by both sides.

    Reds chief operating officer John Allen also declined to comment, citing the sensitive nature of the negotiations.

    Currently, WLW pays the Reds about $3.8 million a year in licensing fees to carry the games, according to advertising-buying consultant Rob Riggsbee of Inside Media. The station keeps the revenue generated by advertising during those games.

    In the radio rights renegotiations with WLW, the Reds sought more marketing opportunities. WLW, which has carried Reds games since 1969, balked at paying high licensing fees.

    Under the new contract, WLW no longer would pay the licensing fees. The station would be limited, however, to selling ads before and after the pre- and postgame shows and in a small capacity during the game. That would allow WLW to retain the lucrative "drive time" sales period prior to weeknight games when freeways are packed with radio listeners.

    The Reds would take over promoting the games and selling advertising spots for Reds on Radio broadcasts.

    Millions of dollars are at stake for the team. In 2006, WLW billed for approximately $5.3 million in ad sales, according to Riggsbee. After paying the Reds $3.8 million in licensing fees, WLW had a profit of $1.5 million in advertising sales, Riggsbee said.

    Riggsbee said those numbers should be similar for 2007.

    The Reds want to draw more fans outside of Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky, and they say they have more interest than WLW in boosting attendance and bundling in-stadium advertising with radio spots.

    The team plans to work with local stations to conduct promotional days in the various cities, enabling the stations to do ticket "give-aways," or as Reinberger put it, "have a Reds day in Indianapolis that will help build ticket sales here."

    "In our core outer markets, Louisville, Lexington, Columbus, Indianapolis, Huntington and Charleston, we can connect more actively with our fans through our local radio stations in their morning drive and daytime programming to help promote us and drive attendance throughout Reds country," he said.

    An average of 25,415 fans came to the 81 home games this season, the second-lowest per-game average since the stadium opened in 2003.

    According to the Reds' most recent available data, at the end of May 2007 nearly 1.3 million tickets had been purchased for the season. About 27.7 percent of those sales came from outside Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky.

    The Reds' paid attendance for 2007 was 2.06 million. Out-of-town sales typically increase during summer when school is out.

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    Re: Reds negotiating to take back ad sales from WLW

    This is really intresting. I never had any idea that we gave them the advertising rights. It would obdviously be better business wise to get those rights back.
    If you can't build a winning team with that core a fire-sale isn't the solution. Selling the franchise, moving them to Nashville and converting GABP into a used car lot is.
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    Re: Reds negotiating to take back ad sales from WLW

    I think this is a step in the right direction for the Reds. I would like to see them be very agressive and even try to get control of a regular block of air time during the off season, perhaps the 6-9 slot 1 nite a week not premptible by college basketball to dedicate to Reds and baseball coverage. That shouldn't be too hard since the college games seem to follow a pattern of being on certain nites.

    I know speaking for myself, once the Reds season is over, the only time I listen to WLW is to hear Reds news. This probably suits the station's marketing plan just fine; but I bet there are thousands of people like me who listen to the Reds games that quit listening to WLW over the winter.

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    Re: Reds negotiating to take back ad sales from WLW

    I agree I don't listen to the big one after baseball ends. I think another great idea would be to move the AA minor league team to Lexington one day. The Astros are in Lexington right now and have one of the highest per game attendance in A ball. How many people are driving up from Tenn, for a game on a Tuesday night? The drive from Lexington is only 75 miles. I think it will just increase interest in the Reds from an area that is within driving distance from Cincinnati. Also it would be much easier for the Reds front office to evaluate talent, on a game by game basis, if their AA team were in Lexington instead of Tenn. Hunington or Indy, might not be a bad idea either.

    I guess another way to look at it would be if the Reds were to put a "real" team on the field, they would have more than enough in attendance, not to worry about the surrounding areas.
    Not this year...maybe a Wild Card


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