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    It's "Griffey Trade Rumor" Time Again - Braves

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    Heard a very interesting idea this week: The Reds could approach the Braves about a deal involving Ken Griffey Jr. -- Cincinnati could effectively hand Griffey to Atlanta, for a Grade B-plus prospect or two, while absorbing some of his salary. Junior could play right field for the Braves, with Jeff Francoeur moving to center fielder. This is something which Griffey might theoretically support, because he'd be only a short flight from his Orlando home, and it would help the Reds resolve their outfield glut.
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    Re: It's "Griffey Trade Rumor" Time Again - Braves

    Griffey, Gonzalez, and cash to Atlanta

    Escobar and Acosta to Reds
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    Re: It's "Griffey Trade Rumor" Time Again - Braves

    Turner Field once was very unfriendly to left handed power hitters. Unless they have changed the dimensions, Griffey might likely veto in favor of staying in friendlier GABP until he reaches 600.
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    Re: It's "Griffey Trade Rumor" Time Again - Braves

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    Heard a very interesting idea this week: The Reds could approach the Braves about a deal involving Ken Griffey Jr. -- Cincinnati could effectively hand Griffey to Atlanta, for a Grade B-plus prospect or two, while absorbing some of his salary. Junior could play right field for the Braves, with Jeff Francoeur moving to center fielder. This is something which Griffey might theoretically support, because he'd be only a short flight from his Orlando home, and it would help the Reds resolve their outfield glut.
    That sounds like a great plan to me. Griffey's time has come. Now, I'm as big of a fan as anyone when it comes to Ken Griffey Jr and he had a commendable 2007 campaign. But it's time to face the facts that Griffey is no longer a serviceable starting outfielder. This is especially true when Jay Bruce is waiting in the wings. Griffey has some value now. It may never be higher than this offseason.

    I'm more than willing to go into 2008 with an outfield of:

    LF: Dunn (pick up his option)
    CF: Hamilton
    RF: Bruce
    OF #4: Hopper
    OF #5: Freel
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    Re: It's "Griffey Trade Rumor" Time Again - Braves

    Quote Originally Posted by Spitball View Post
    Turner Field once was very unfriendly to left handed power hitters. Unless they have changed the dimensions, Griffey might likely veto in favor of staying in friendlier GABP until he reaches 600.
    I don't think JR is that worried about the numbers, he wants a ring IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by paintmered View Post
    That sounds like a great plan to me. Griffey's time has come. Now, I'm as big of a fan as anyone when it comes to Ken Griffey Jr and he had a commendable 2007 campaign. But it's time to face the facts that Griffey is no longer a serviceable starting outfielder. This is especially true when Jay Bruce is waiting in the wings. Griffey has some value now. It may never be higher than this offseason.

    I'm more than willing to go into 2008 with an outfield of:

    LF: Dunn (pick up his option)
    CF: Hamilton
    RF: Bruce
    OF #4: Hopper
    OF #5: Freel
    If they can land a piece or two that can help the big club near-term, I'd be saddened. but could accept dealing Junior. I'd prefer just one on the roster between Freel and Hopper and find a RH OF with a little more power for the bench and to spell a starter against really tough lefties.

    I doubt Freel has a lot of value, but someone might offer a middle-reliever, reserve or a younger farm hand. Maybe Jimbo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulrichjr View Post
    Heard a very interesting idea this week: The Reds could approach the Braves about a deal involving Ken Griffey Jr.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedLegSuperStar View Post
    Griffey, Gonzalez, and cash to Atlanta

    Escobar and Acosta to Reds
    The Braves would never go for that.

    Anyway, I think it could make sense for the Braves, even though I'm not sure KGJ is a Braves type of player. Now that they lost Andruw Jones, they're probably looking for someone to replace his offensive production. Griffey would be a less expensive (albeit older) option that hits with a higher batting average and similar (if not better) power. Not to mention, you'd have to think he's worth tickets at Turner Field as well.

    As for the return, if we can get a couple (as the article said B plus prospects), count me in. I'd like to see the Reds receive at least 1 pitching prospect in the deal, even if they are a reliever.

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    It IS time to move Griffey. Take a couple low level prospects. I doubt its the Braves though. They are using the Jones money they save to sign Texeira and aren't looking to go higher on salary. Appears their corporate ownership is a bit tighter than Mr. Turner was.

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    I'd expect to not kick in any cash if we'd only get two Grade B+ prospects (and I'd worry a little taking pitching from Atlanta, we rarely come out well on those transactions with them).
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    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed View Post
    I don't think JR is that worried about the numbers, he wants a ring IMO
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    The Braves can't afford to re-sign Andrew Jones but they can trade for Griffey? Just usually newspaper speculation but I think they will commit their dollars to signing Texiera to a contract extension.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedlegJake View Post
    It IS time to move Griffey. Take a couple low level prospects.
    I don't know all the particulars on this rumor; but how does it help the Reds to pay part of his salary just to ship him to Atlanta for low level prospects?

    Just to be rid of (dump) the guy?

    Now if this FO is that confident that Bruce is ready for RF, then this may be a possibility.

    Not overlooking his past injury history at all; but over the last 3 years the guy has produced for us.... .871 OPS, .579 SLG%, .352 OB%, while averaging 127 games/season in that span.

    And he is going to be chasing #600 next year. To an owner, he puts butts in the seats, and there is that marketing aspect.

    Now some can justly contend that putting a winning team on that field will also put butts in the seats. Rightly so.

    But I don't see how simply dumping Jr accomplishes that? He's not the reason we've seen a poor product on that field.

    Quote Originally Posted by Krusty View Post
    The Braves can't afford to re-sign Andrew Jones but they can trade for Griffey? Just usually newspaper speculation but I think they will commit their dollars to signing Texiera to a contract extension.
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    Re: It's "Griffey Trade Rumor" Time Again - Braves

    Quote Originally Posted by Krusty View Post
    The Braves can't afford to re-sign Andrew Jones but they can trade for Griffey? Just usually newspaper speculation but I think they will commit their dollars to signing Texiera to a contract extension.
    I dont know if they can't afford to resign Jones. It maybe more like his skills have deteriorated and he isnt worth the money Boras wants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAC View Post
    I don't know all the particulars on this rumor; but how does it help the Reds to pay part of his salary just to ship him to Atlanta for low level prospects?

    Just to be rid of (dump) the guy?

    Now if this FO is that confident that Bruce is ready for RF, then this may be a possibility.

    Not overlooking his past injury history at all; but over the last 3 years the guy has produced for us.... .871 OPS, .579 SLG%, .352 OB%, while averaging 127 games/season in that span.

    And he is going to be chasing #600 next year. To an owner, he puts butts in the seats, and there is that marketing aspect.

    Now some can justly contend that putting a winning team on that field will also put butts in the seats. Rightly so.

    But I don't see how simply dumping Jr accomplishes that? He's not the reason we've seen a poor product on that field.
    GAC, you said it much better than I did. I think some of these reporters just believe we're in constant sinking mode and will always be the proverbial poor relations. I just don't buy it. I do think that Griffey will start out the season in Cincy but may be moved prior to the trade deadline making room for Bruce.
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