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    Castellini: Krivsky's safe

    Maybe this goes in the Jocketty thread...I don't know.


    Castellini: Krivsky's safe

    There's been a lot of speculation nationally about the possibility of former St. Louis GM Walt Jocketty ending up with the Reds, given the that Reds CEO Bob Castellini was once a limited partner in St. Louis and he's known to admire the work Jocketty did with the Cardinals.

    But it's not going to happen.

    "Wayne Krivsky is our GM. Period," Castellini said Monday through a spokesman.

    Krivsky has one year remaining on his contract. The Reds are 152-172 in his two years as GM.

    Jocketty was dismissed after the season by the Cardinals.

    - Fay

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    Re: Castellini: Krivsky's safe

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Maybe this goes in the Jocketty thread...I don't know.


    Castellini: Krivsky's safe

    There's been a lot of speculation nationally about the possibility of former St. Louis GM Walt Jocketty ending up with the Reds, given the that Reds CEO Bob Castellini was once a limited partner in St. Louis and he's known to admire the work Jocketty did with the Cardinals.

    But it's not going to happen.

    "Wayne Krivsky is our GM. Period," Castellini said Monday through a spokesman.

    Krivsky has one year remaining on his contract. The Reds are 152-172 in his two years as GM.

    Jocketty was dismissed after the season by the Cardinals.

    - Fay

    That doesn't mean Jocketty couldn't come in as president, however remote that may be.

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    Re: Castellini: Krivsky's safe

    The Reds are 152-172 in his two years as GM.
    And the five years prior they were

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    WINS                             W        L       PCT    
    1    Reds                        362      448     .447
    It's long way to the top if you want to rock n roll.

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    Re: Castellini: Krivsky's safe

    Hello, Atlas Van Lines? Wayne Krivsky here.
    Some people play baseball. Baseball plays Jay Bruce.

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    Re: Castellini: Krivsky's safe

    Assuming this sticks, I for one am glad. I'd like to give Krivsky at least 1 more year before making any final judgments.

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    Re: Castellini: Krivsky's safe

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Maybe this goes in the Jocketty thread...I don't know.


    Castellini: Krivsky's safe

    There's been a lot of speculation nationally about the possibility of former St. Louis GM Walt Jocketty ending up with the Reds, given the that Reds CEO Bob Castellini was once a limited partner in St. Louis and he's known to admire the work Jocketty did with the Cardinals.

    But it's not going to happen.

    "Wayne Krivsky is our GM. Period," Castellini said Monday through a spokesman.

    Krivsky has one year remaining on his contract. The Reds are 152-172 in his two years as GM.

    Jocketty was dismissed after the season by the Cardinals.

    - Fay
    Not surprising at all.

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    Re: Castellini: Krivsky's safe

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    And the five years prior they were

    Code:
    WINS                             W        L       PCT    
    1    Reds                        362      448     .447
    It's long way to the top if you want to rock n roll.
    And Jocketty took a team that averaged 96 wins from 2000-2005 and managed to sink it below .500 the last two years. Better to crash the ship or fail to get it off the ground?

    Reds
    2001-2005: .447
    2006-2007: .469

    Cardinals
    2001-2005: .593
    2006-2007: .497
    Last edited by RedsManRick; 10-08-2007 at 05:07 PM.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Castellini: Krivsky's safe

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    And Jocketty took a team that averaged 96 wins from 2000-2005 and managed to sink it below .500 the last two years. Better to crash the ship or fail to get it off the ground?
    2006: Crashed that ship right into a WS championship.

    2007: Curious to see how they would have fared if Carpenter wasn't lost for the entire season

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    Re: Castellini: Krivsky's safe

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    And Jocketty took a team that averaged 96 wins from 2000-2005 and managed to sink it below .500 the last two years. Better to crash the ship or fail to get it off the ground?
    I have no idea where you get the idea I want Walt Jocketty as the Reds GM, I've already said pass numerous times.

    In other news

    Colorado Rockies owners Charlie and Dick Monfort took their share of heat from the fans on Opening Day when they announced two-year contract extensions for General Manager Dan ODowd and manager Clint Hurdle. The Rockies had enjoyed a winning season in ODowds first year on the job in 2000 but none since. Hurdle had compiled a 352-436 record since replacing Buddy Bell early in the 2002 season.

    However, the Monforts look smart now, as the Rockies won 15 of their final 16 regular-season games, including beating San Diego in a tiebreaker, to reach the NL playoffs as the wild card team. The Rockies then swept Philadelphia in the National League Division Series for their first-ever post-season series win and will now face Arizona in the NLCS.

    Charlie Monfort, the Rockies chief executive officer, said there was a reason for their decision to extend ODowd and Hurdle--stability. It reached farther than the manager and general manager, Monfort told the Rocky Mountain News. The farm system was good, the scouting was good, and we knew Clint could bring them together at the big-league level. This is gratifying not for ownership but to know that after the slings and arrows that everyone in our organization took maybe we did know what we were doing.

    "You have to realize that when you get rid of one person in baseball you get rid of the organization. Dan ODowd is also (scouting director) Bill Schmidt and (VP of baseball operations) Bill Geivett and (player development director) Mark Gustafson. Consistency is what you need. You want people to feel they can do their job and not look over their shoulder after every loss. Consistency is what you need and weve had a system in place for eight years. The players understand who they are going to play for. They know Clint is in charge. They know Dan is in charge. Stability in any business is good.
    http://www.baseballprospectus.com/ar...articleid=6802

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    Re: Castellini: Krivsky's safe

    Part of me hopes Jocketty takes another job so we don't hear all of next season "Fire Krivksy hire Jocketty!"

    I don't think Jocketty as president would work, too many cooks in the kitchen and all that.
    Go Gators!

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    The Reds aren't going to hire some young pup stats guru. Forget it; it's not going to happen. The best we can hope for is 1. Wayne gets a clue or 2. they hire some old school guy who is aggressive (Jocketty/Sabean).

    Those of you waiting on the next Shapiro: find a windmill to tilt at.

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    Re: Castellini: Krivsky's safe

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in BG View Post
    That doesn't mean Jocketty couldn't come in as president
    Or as a special advisor.
    /r/reds

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    Re: Castellini: Krivsky's safe

    Quote Originally Posted by Unassisted View Post
    Or as a special advisor.

    I remember back in the day before the Reds hired Tony Perez as their manager, JimBo brought in Davey Johnson, Jack McKeon and, I think Bobby Valentine in varying roles. Two out of three of them ended up eventually managing the Reds and had the last amount of success the Reds have had to this date.
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    Re: Castellini: Krivsky's safe

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Maybe this goes in the Jocketty thread...I don't know.


    Castellini: Krivsky's safe

    There's been a lot of speculation nationally about the possibility of former St. Louis GM Walt Jocketty ending up with the Reds, given the that Reds CEO Bob Castellini was once a limited partner in St. Louis and he's known to admire the work Jocketty did with the Cardinals.

    But it's not going to happen.

    "Wayne Krivsky is our GM. Period," Castellini said Monday through a spokesman.

    Krivsky has one year remaining on his contract. The Reds are 152-172 in his two years as GM.

    Jocketty was dismissed after the season by the Cardinals.

    - Fay
    Does anyone else remember "Dan O'Brien is our GM! Period" like I do? Same sentence different name. Same person saying it.
    It's absolutely pathetic that people can't have an opinion from actually watching games and supplementing that with stats. If you voice an opinion that doesn't fit into a black/white box you will get completely misrepresented and basically called a tobacco chewing traditionalist...
    Cedric 3/24/08

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    Re: Castellini: Krivsky's safe

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    The Reds aren't going to hire some young pup stats guru. Forget it; it's not going to happen. The best we can hope for is 1. Wayne gets a clue or 2. they hire some old school guy who is aggressive (Jocketty/Sabean).

    Those of you waiting on the next Shapiro: find a windmill to tilt at.
    That is the absolute truth with the perfect analogy.
    It's absolutely pathetic that people can't have an opinion from actually watching games and supplementing that with stats. If you voice an opinion that doesn't fit into a black/white box you will get completely misrepresented and basically called a tobacco chewing traditionalist...
    Cedric 3/24/08


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