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    Coaching staff...

    So far, not much, but some thoughts from Fay's blog...




    Took almost all of yesterday off. We could see coaching moves today. I think Dick Pole will be back, whether it's pitching coach or bench coach is the question. Brook Jacoby could be safe based on what Dusty Baker said about continuity. And really what hitter -- other than David Ross -- had a down year?

    As for the others, I have no clue. Mark Berry would like to stay in the organization. That Double-A managing job is something he's done before.

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    I don't think he's totally responsible for the state of the bullpen but Hume should be out looking for work.

    Will we see Wendell Kim?
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    I tell you what, if the Reds got Leo Mazzone, my worries about the health of the pitchers would be cut in half.
    "Don't trust any statistics you did not fake yourself."--Winston Churchill

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheelhouse View Post
    I tell you what, if the Reds got Leo Mazzone, my worries about the health of the pitchers would be cut in half.
    I agree.... but it likely won't happen.

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    I would be OK with Pole as Bench Coach and Mazzone as pitching coach. However, I know how rough Mazzone is on rookies. I also know how poor of a communicator he CAN be if he doesn't like you. A little too much of a primadona if you ask me. Keeping Pole around might cure that but also might be a problem in that respect too. Maybe not a good idea after all.
    It's absolutely pathetic that people can't have an opinion from actually watching games and supplementing that with stats. If you voice an opinion that doesn't fit into a black/white box you will get completely misrepresented and basically called a tobacco chewing traditionalist...
    Cedric 3/24/08

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    Quote Originally Posted by Team Clark View Post
    I would be OK with Pole as Bench Coach and Mazzone as pitching coach. However, I know how rough Mazzone is on rookies. I also know how poor of a communicator he CAN be if he doesn't like you. A little too much of a primadona if you ask me. Keeping Pole around might cure that but also might be a problem in that respect too. Maybe not a good idea after all.
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    Is it that he doesn't like certain people, or is it that he has standards that he insists upon players adhering to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheelhouse View Post
    I tell you what, if the Reds got Leo Mazzone, my worries about the health of the pitchers would be cut in half.
    Ron Guidry is the name to watch if he is fired by the Yankees.
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    Re: Coaching staff...

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    I don't think he's totally responsible for the state of the bullpen but Hume should be out looking for work.

    Will we see Wendell Kim?
    I would like to see those that have been associated with past pitching failures or shortcomings move on to greener pastures too.

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    Re: Coaching staff...

    Dave Stewart was Dusty's pitching coach in the World Series year...


    Not sure what kind of track record he has, but the name's intriguing
    Last edited by Matt700wlw; 10-17-2007 at 11:18 PM.

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    Some interesting names were being mentioned when I was with sportswriters in Charlotte over the weekend. Mazzone, Stewart, and Guidry were all mentioned for pitching coach. They also mentioned Joe Lefebvre and Willie Upshaw. One guy who doesn't cover the Giants but writes for the SF Chronicle chimed in those last two names and said Dusty would clean house.

    What do sportswriters know anyhow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan View Post
    What do sportswriters know anyhow?
    From what I have seen.... not a whole lot for the most part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheelhouse View Post
    TC-
    Is it that he doesn't like certain people, or is it that he has standards that he insists upon players adhering to?
    He just has a general burr up his.... Maybe now that he has been knocked down a few pegs his attitude might change. Still a very good pitching coach. I would HIGHLY recommend Ray Miller. No reason he should be sitting at home.
    It's absolutely pathetic that people can't have an opinion from actually watching games and supplementing that with stats. If you voice an opinion that doesn't fit into a black/white box you will get completely misrepresented and basically called a tobacco chewing traditionalist...
    Cedric 3/24/08

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    Re: Coaching staff...

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Dave Stewart was Dusty's pitching coach in the World Series year...


    Not sure what kind of track record he has, but the name's intriguing
    Huge fan of Stew's but he is a full time agent now. Also, I remember him as the Padres and Brewers pitching coach but never with the Giants.
    It's absolutely pathetic that people can't have an opinion from actually watching games and supplementing that with stats. If you voice an opinion that doesn't fit into a black/white box you will get completely misrepresented and basically called a tobacco chewing traditionalist...
    Cedric 3/24/08

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    Re: Coaching staff...

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan View Post
    What do sportswriters know anyhow?
    Unless your name is C. Trent, not much.

    Callin' it how I see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Team Clark View Post
    Huge fan of Stew's but he is a full time agent now. Also, I remember him as the Padres and Brewers pitching coach but never with the Giants.
    I guess that's not it....besides playing with him, I thought there was another connection....
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