I dont see where he fits with out making major moves with trades
Torii Hunter says he wants to play somewhere with a large African-American population. Not sure how Cincinnati fits in.
Torii Hunter would be an awful target for a highly lucrative, long term contract from the Reds. His value as a player comes from his ability to play a stellar CF, but he is already 32, will be 33 half way through next year, and is already declining as a fielder. As a hitter, he has never had an OBP above .337, and I doubt he will improve all that much, since he strikes out three times more than he walks. Basically, while he has good power, he is only worth 15 million a year if he is playing a fantastic CF, which he would be unlikelly to do throughout a long term contract, considering his age.
If the Reds were to shell out for an elite CF(which is arguable if they should, I wouldn't), the man to go after would be Andruw Jones. He is almost two years younger than Hunter, a superior hitter in both power and on-base ability, and likely to keep his defensive value for a longer period of time.
Why in the hell would the Reds want to go after Torii Hunter? They already have Griffey, Dunn, Hamilton, Freel (once he's healthy), and Norris Hopper. Don't forget about Jay Bruce waiting in the wings. Why in the world would the Reds want to go after an aging center fielder? They have plenty of outfielders. They have enough hitting as it stands right now. This makes no sense whatsoever.
The Reds need to address their pitching needs. They need another quality starter, and they need to stop getting old, tired, over-the-hill relievers whose best days are behind them.
Last edited by GoGoWhiteSox; 10-23-2007 at 09:32 PM.
Pass on Torii Hunter. No need for that overpaid OFer in Cincy. Again, the Reds need Pitching, Pitching and more PITCHING! After acquiring said pitching, let's see what is available in the Catching area. The Reds have outfielders coming out of the woodwork and they're all good enough to keep unless very good+ (or better) pitching can come our way for Hamilton, Freel or Griffey-> if Jr. consents to a trade.
Well, I've seen on RZ plenty of times about how there's no quality pitching in the FA market and any pitching upgrades will probably come through trades-- maybe the reds are thinking about dipping into an area where we can ARGUABLY upgrade (centerfield) and trade away some of our area of surplus (outfielders) for quality pitching. Makes sense to me...
your constant Dunn is the best player in the world banter really has no base, and if you really would be that upset about them getting a big time improvement in the field over that overrated donkey(would be a good DH, but not a fielder in the NL), then go cheer on the cubbies or something...
GABP being a hitters park is a perfect place for people like alex gonzalez and josh hamilton, and norris hopper.. GREAT on defense, and with the park they can stretch hits that were normally singles into doubles, and doubles into going over the wall..
you dont need to build around power.. you need to build around pitching and defense, the power upgrade in numbers will come because of the park they play in..
To answer your question...no. He can say what he wants. I just hope he doesn't come to the Reds as Hamilton's offensive numbers will be much better and he plays a stellar center field.
Last edited by big boy; 10-24-2007 at 01:30 PM.
Seattle has 3 young catchers and Clemente is not considered #1.
It amazes me on this board that so many, if not most people, are clinging so tightly to Josh Hamilton, when this team needs pitching so badly and the free agent market is horrible.
Keeping Josh Hamilton and all of our top young players will just lead to more losing as long as we don't/can't trade one or two of them for pitching.
Who's on first?
I am fairly confident that this statement (which you quoted in the post above) does not exclaim that Dunn is the greatest player in the world. However it does state that Dunnn perrenially Hits 40+HRs, scores 100+ runs, 100+ RBI's, and walks 100+ times.
Dont be blinded by what you hear from Marty and Thom during broadcasts... Dunn's hitting prowess would be incredibly hard to make up for and adding a 32 year old center fielder's defense probably won't account for much. Remember Griffey (arguably the greatest player of his generation before injuries) was 31 when he first came to the queen city...
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