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    Remember guys the media goes to chad for comments not the other way around.

    He hasnt changed, so why is now a problem?

    He has said that there is nothing to celebrate right now as well. Doesnt sound like a guy that is oblivious to whats going on around him to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAC View Post
    No denying the guy is very talented. That is not open for debate.

    Can talent be a problem and a distraction for a team?

    Ask those that have played with T.O. and Keyshawn (Chad's cousin?).

    I'll take talent and a class act anyday. Jerry Rice got all the recognition and acknowledgment of his talent by what he did on that playing field without running his mouth and various other antics.

    I find it funny though that when the Bengals were winning, many fans were saying Chad's antics were nothing more then fun and entertaining. Now it is not so. What has changed, other then the fact they aren't winning?

    And this reasoning "He only cares about winning" is a smack in the face of every other Bengal player on that team, as if they somehow don't care? Give me a break!
    How does it have anything to do with the other players. People are calling Chad a guy that doesnt care if they win or lose. Its simply not true. The comment about chad only cares about winning is defense for the people that are trying to say that he doesnt care. He cares just as much as every guy on the field. He shows his emotion when they lose way too much and that is the only fault that he brings to the field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedFanAlways1966 View Post
    The name Santana Moss immediately popped into my mind...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bip Roberts View Post
    Do you watch the games? He gets upset when we lose. He is all about winning. He has said multiple times that he could care less if he never caught a pass as long as they won games.
    I'm fine with that, right up until he shows up his quarterback on national television. I bet he was upset that they didn't run the ball more. Honestly, just him being Chad Johnson helps the team. He is always double covered, and is always in the defensive player's heads. I just hope that he can turn things around, and leave his mouth at home.

    By the way, didn't Marvin tell Chad to cool it last year? I remember when Chad told the reporters that he had been quiet all year, and that that was the week he was going to start up with his chat again. Why doesn't Marvin make him a deal that he can talk all he wants if they make the playoffs or something like that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoReds33 View Post
    I'm fine with that, right up until he shows up his quarterback on national television. I bet he was upset that they didn't run the ball more. Honestly, just him being Chad Johnson helps the team. He is always double covered, and is always in the defensive player's heads. I just hope that he can turn things around, and leave his mouth at home.

    By the way, didn't Marvin tell Chad to cool it last year? I remember when Chad told the reporters that he had been quiet all year, and that that was the week he was going to start up with his chat again. Why doesn't Marvin make him a deal that he can talk all he wants if they make the playoffs or something like that?
    So one time they get into an arguement on national TV is a reason to kill the guy? It takes 2 players to argue. Palmer wasnt exactly handling the situation that well. Both were being babies but them having 1 problem in 5 years isnt enough for me to condemn Chad. TJ throws more fits on the field than Chad if you ask me.

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    Chad, aside from pushing away Marvin in Kansas City (which he was wrong for doing), hasn't said hardly a word during this slow beginning to the season. He's not yacking during the week or during the game because they've been losing.

    (The "arguement" with Carson was so over-blown it's not even funny)

    Now a mostly silent Chad Johnson is a "distraction" to the team and the reason they're losing???

    Puuuuhhhhhhlease.
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    My only problem with Chad is that he is too emotional at times.

    Hes built himself up into a media monster and is probably in over his head. He needs to realize that the media only cares about what gets them ratings and themselves more coverage.

    look how quick paul daugherty sold chad out.

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    Re: Why can't Chad Johnson just shut his mouth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bip Roberts View Post
    How does it have anything to do with the other players. People are calling Chad a guy that doesnt care if they win or lose. Its simply not true. The comment about chad only cares about winning is defense for the people that are trying to say that he doesnt care. He cares just as much as every guy on the field. He shows his emotion when they lose way too much and that is the only fault that he brings to the field.
    I think the issue is that he compromises his teammates by inciting the other team, and acting out unprofessionally on the field. And when you don't back it up with something - you get nailed for it. Can't have it both ways.

    Jumping into the "dawg pound" just fires the other team up, so does sending them pepto bismol bottles (as cute as we may think it is). Attacking your coaches or going into tirades at half time, and taking away from your team's prep time for the 2nd half is also incredibly counter productive.

    Pulling out a "HOF 2???" jacket on the sidelines after a TD was the most self serving stunt on a football field I've ever seen.

    Slapping "Ocho Cinco" on your uniform is just stupid.

    His emotions and passion for playing aren't the issue, I get that.

    Just quit acting like a clown. Just win games. If you want to do a dance after a TD, fine.

    But all the other stuff is completely ridiculous and I think everyone is just about tired of it, other than maybe some of less knowledgeable fans who go just to "see what Chad will do next." It's not a reality show, it's not the Flava Of Love NFL edition.

    They won and he did just fine last week (despite only having 3 catches - he got his yards) without any of that nonsense. I wish he'd just play football - his talent is entertaining enough.

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    it's not the Flava Of Love NFL edition.


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    Re: Why can't Chad Johnson just shut his mouth?

    Acting like a clown was fine when they were winning was it not? Hes not acting like a clown now because we losing. People are just taking what hes done in the past and trying to spin it into something negative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAC View Post
    No denying the guy is very talented. That is not open for debate.

    Can talent be a problem and a distraction for a team?

    Ask those that have played with T.O. and Keyshawn (Chad's cousin?).

    I'll take talent and a class act anyday. Jerry Rice got all the recognition and acknowledgment of his talent by what he did on that playing field without running his mouth and various other antics.

    I find it funny though that when the Bengals were winning, many fans were saying Chad's antics were nothing more then fun and entertaining. Now it is not so. What has changed, other then the fact they aren't winning?

    And this reasoning "He only cares about winning" is a smack in the face of every other Bengal player on that team, as if they somehow don't care? Give me a break!
    I take it you weren't a big fan of Muhammed Ali either. I don't think Chad's talk is anything worse than Ali. Honestly, what Chad does with his mouth, as long as he isn't "throwing his teammates under the bus," shouldn't have any effect on the other guys on the team. The only thing they need to worry about is making sure they're doing what they need to do to win. And I don't think saying "he only cares about winning" is a smack in anyone's face. He does care about winning. He also cares about doing the best at his job. He admitted this season that his blocking stinks and Marvin said he's been working on it. So what. There are plenty of guys on the Bengals that I wish would put the time and effort into their jobs that Chad does. Maybe if guys like Thurman and Henry did that, they'd be on the field playing instead of being suspended.

    The fact of the matter is that there are a number of players on the Bengals that just aren't pulling their weight. All this media bull about Chad Johnson being the problem is just that, bull crap. There are a number of guys on defense who aren't pulling their weight and no one says jack about them. Are they team guys because they don't talk to the media? No. From what I can tell quite a few of these guys are usually out of position trying to freelance, doing their own thing. That doesn't sound like being a team guy to me. At least Chad talks to Carson after a screw up, even if it gets heated. I'd say he has a better chance of working things out and getting on the right page than some of those bums on defense.
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    Yep- winning a few games will make everything fine. Unfortunately, this team is just not very good so that's not likely to happen. The defense is worse than last year, the special teams is horrendous...it all add up to a lousy team. If they were better, Chad's complaints would be from a guy who wants to win. But at this point, it just looks like whining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WilyMoROCKS View Post
    That one I'm not sure about, Bip.

    I mean, I know he has said that, but even when things are going well and the Bengals are winning, I've seen little tantrums out of Chad when he is "open" and Carson "doesn't get him the ball."
    That's b/c more often than not Chad Johnson is open and Carson Palmer isn't getting him the ball. I'm just going from my own observations, based on replays showing Palmer not going to an open Johnson, but it seems Chad's got a gripe about Palmer not finding him enough. Maybe some of that might have to do with the Bengals' suspect O-Line....

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    Re: Why can't Chad Johnson just shut his mouth?

    Here's a take from Mark Curnutte's blog:

    On Chad and Marvin

    Some thoughts on the Chad Johnson situation and head coach Marvin Lewis' handling of it and the media:

    -- Chad Johnson isn't the Bengals' biggest problem. He's far from the Bengals' biggest problem. Chad Johnson doesn't draft players, manage the salary cap or decide which end-of-career, bargain-basement free agents to pursue. I'm sure Chad Johnson would have loved for his team to aggressively pursue and sign linebacker Adalius Thomas, who ended up with the Patriots.

    -- Chad Johnson is not the head coach, nor the offensive coordinator. Nor the defensive coordinator, for that matter.

    -- If Chad Johnson were to be traded, T.J. Houshmandzadeh's productivity would decrease. Houshmandzadeh is an excellent receiver, a man worthy of respect for the self-made nature of his climb to stardom, but Johnson attracts a great deal of attention from defenses that helps create space and mismatches for Houshmandzadeh.

    -- If you think Chris Henry could step and replace Johnson, you're wrong. Henry has proven not to be dependable. And Henry is one misstep from a even greater NFL discipline. Commissioner Roger Goodell said as much, and further punishment could include banishment.

    -- Chad Johnson is not nearly the disruption that Terrell Owens or other wide receivers have been on their respective teams. Johnson works incredibly hard at practice and shows up to work on time every day.

    -- Chad Johnson, last time I checked, doesn't play defense for the Bengals. And the defense, far and away, remains the biggest problem on this team. It shows no signs more signs of sustainable improvement now than it did in 2003 or 2004.

    -- Is Chad Johnson a scape goat, or as Emmitt Smith said Monday on ESPN, an "escapegoat," for all of the Bengals' problems? Is Johnson a convenient distraction being used by the organization to deflect attention from the real issues of front office management and coaching? If Johnson is an internal problem, is the degree of that issue being exaggerated to deflect attention from an under-achieving team and coaching staff? I'm just asking the question here.

    -- That said, Chad Johnson might very well be an internal disruption in the locker room. But I would say he has contributed much more to the organization than he has taken. I think he has made the Brown family a ton of money.

    -- I think, and this is a possible attitude in the Bengals front office, that Drew Rosenhaus, Johnson's agent, is the choreographer of many of Johnson's antics -- the puppeteer, to some extent.

    -- ESPN's Chris Mortensen is one of the top NFL reporters in the country. He wouldn't make up a Bengals source like the one that he said told him that the Bengals have discussed the possibility of trading Chad Johnson.

    -- This is fact, not a complaint: Marvin Lewis is one of those NFL head coaches who treats the national media differently -- more favorably -- than the local media. It happens in other markets around the league; these coaches think they get more bang for their buck going nationally. Lewis has his pet national reporters, ones he receives with hugs (Michael Smith of ESPN, for example) on their visits, reporters that have "helped" him in the past, and he talks to them frequently. I don't want a hug, if that's what some of you are thinking. I just want relatively honest answers.

    It's Lewis' prerogative to talk to whom he chooses. But he also insults his team's customers when he fails to communicate honestly with them -- hiding behind an often-bogus cloak of protecting competitive advantage -- through the local media, the primary source of information for Bengals' fans.

    I don't take what I think is his evasive, often condescending attitude with us personally. I don't. He can answer our questions any way he chooses. In fact, I receive a lot of e-mail and phone calls from readers who want to know how the local media contingent resists telling Lewis to stick it sideways when he says we (and his customers) are too stupid to understand the basics of football or otherwise attempts to insult us.

    For those radio listeners who think the only contact one of the beat reporters has with Lewis is during his news conferences, you're wrong. I can't speak for the other reporters, but the majority of my contact with Lewis is done on the side when there are no cameras or microphones around, one-on-one as often as possible. And for the most part, he is accessible. When I have something important to ask him, unless there is no other chance to talk to him that day, I won't ask it in a news conference.

    And, finally, I have told this to Marvin directly: I respect him. I understand what he is trying to do with the Bengals; I don't think he gets much help upstairs, and while he might not need a general manager, he does need more sets of eyes in the scouting department (beyond the good scouts the club already has) to provide him with more and better information on players. I also think he is an intelligent man with an admirable work ethic. But I won't kiss his butt. If I did, I wouldn't be -- and I'm going to use one of his pet slogans -- doing my job. The relationship between newspaper reporter and source, by definition, is frequently awkward.

    In fact, he sent word through a Bengals public relations employee that he disagreed with the thesis of my Sunday story -- that the high number of hamstring and groin pulls/strains suffered by Bengals players since Sept. 7 are largely preventable. OK, we can agree to disagree. I stand by the story. I approached Lewis about it directly last week. I asked to speak to his strength and conditioning coach, Chip Morton. I offered them plenty of time and space to tell their side. Morton declined in the end. But Lewis did talk.
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    Re: Why can't Chad Johnson just shut his mouth?

    I have to say, I like Mark Curnutte, he really is remarkably gutsy and a decent writer. Wonder why he's at the Enquirer

    I also agree with almost everything in his latest entry.
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