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    Re: Bengals v. Squealers err... Stealers... err... Steelers

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    Where are you getting that Parker is out?
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    Re: Bengals v. Squealers err... Stealers... err... Steelers

    I think the biggest key to the game is the Steelers gameplan. If they come out and pound the ball with Parker and Davenport all day, the Bengals don't have a chance.

    If they come out like they did against Denver, the Steelers don't have a chance.
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    Re: Bengals v. Squealers err... Stealers... err... Steelers

    I don't see any scenario in which we win this game.

    I'm just hoping it's watchable.

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    Willie Parker will rush for 150+ yards. While I agree that the Steelers are overrated, the Bengals are much worse right now. Any team with a quality running back should run right over the Bengals.

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    Re: Bengals v. Squealers err... Stealers... err... Steelers

    I mentioned this in Edskin's thread, but the Bengals are a streaky team, so they're now due their annual winning streak that gets them to .500 and gives the fanbase the false impression that it may be a playoff season. Watch them run off three wins in a row, including this Sunday against Pittsburgh, an overrated team.

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    Hmm... common knowlegde leads me to believe that there is no way we win this game. The whole "rivalry" thing might keep the game close, but I really don't see how we win this game.

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    Re: Bengals v. Squealers err... Stealers... err... Steelers

    I'm sorry to break the news, but Roethlisberger is not a good quarterback. He's average at best. I'm over-simplifying, of course, but all the Bengals have to do is focus on the running game and let Roethlisberger lose the game for the Steelers. He always tries to do something he's incapable of (which is be good), and he's going to cost the Steelers the game.

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    Carson has more talent and ability than Roethlisberger in his pinky toe.
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    Re: Bengals v. Squealers err... Stealers... err... Steelers

    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    I'm sorry to break the news, but Roethlisberger is not a good quarterback. He's average at best. I'm over-simplifying, of course, but all the Bengals have to do is focus on the running game and let Roethlisberger lose the game for the Steelers. He always tries to do something he's incapable of (which is be good), and he's going to cost the Steelers the game.
    The Bengals have tried that appraoch before with Ben... and lost.

    Granted - Roethlisberger didn't shine last year versus the Bengals; but prior to '06, he has had his way with them pretty much.

    Here is a comparison between QB's in last years two meetings, which the teams split.....

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                     C/ATT    YDS   AVG  TD  INT
    Palmer           18/26    193   7.4   4   2
    Roethlisberger   18/39    208   5.3   0   3
    
    Palmer           20/38    251   6.6   2   0
    Roethlisberger   19/28    280   10.0  1   1
    Overall, since 2004, Ben is 4-2 vs the Bengals, and has never lost at Cincinnati, with a QB rating of 98.4 playing there.

    And while I would like nothing more then to see the Bengals beat Pittsburgh, who leads our division...... Ben is not their problem. Ben doesn't have to be spectacular, just good enough.

    Can the Bengals stop Willie Parker is the bigger issue.

    People talk about how miserable the Bengal's defense is, but they also need to take a good hard look at this offensive line. Palmer has been scrambling and running his butt off. Pitt is going to blitz him terribly I feel.
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    Re: Bengals v. Squealers err... Stealers... err... Steelers

    Ben is good at the short passes though, which is what seems to really hurt us.

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    Re: Bengals v. Squealers err... Stealers... err... Steelers

    Quote Originally Posted by TeamSelig View Post
    Hmm... common knowlegde leads me to believe that there is no way we win this game. The whole "rivalry" thing might keep the game close, but I really don't see how we win this game.
    I don't either, but I'm still picking the Bengals, based on history alone. Even in the darkest hours of this franchise's history, they've found ways to beat Pittsburgh.

    In 1980, the 0-2 Bengals defeated the 2-0 Steelers. Three weeks later, they met again, this time with the Bengals 1-4 and the Steelers 4-1. Cincinnati won again. They were 2-0 vs Pittsburgh and 0-4 against the rest of the league, while the Steelers were 0-2 against the Bengals and 4-0 against the rest of the league. That Bengals team managed only six wins all season, but they were much better than their 6-10 record indicated, and proved it the next year by going to the Super Bowl.

    More recently, in 1998, the Bengals went 3-13. Wanna guess who two of those three wins came against? Yep, the division rivals. They were 2-0 against Pittsburgh and 1-13 vs the rest of the teams on their schedule.

    What does all of this ancient history have to do with this Sunday's game? Many would say "Absolutely nothing. The games are played, won, and lost on the field, not in some record book."

    However, in my 30+ years of watching this league, I've learned that certain historical trends cannot be ignored, and people who give betting advice will agree. That's probably why the Bengals are only a 3-point underdog.

    I'll admit that I cherry picked two specific seasons to make my point, but hopefully it illustrates that, no matter how bad the Bengals season goes, it doesn't necessarily carry over to the Pittsburgh game.

    On the other hand, the Steelers have a history of winning at PBS, so maybe one cancels out the other.


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    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    I'm sorry to break the news, but Roethlisberger is not a good quarterback. He's average at best. I'm over-simplifying, of course, but all the Bengals have to do is focus on the running game and let Roethlisberger lose the game for the Steelers. He always tries to do something he's incapable of (which is be good), and he's going to cost the Steelers the game.
    You're not "breaking" any news. You're perpetuating a falsehood. Until his injury-plagued 2006 Roethisberger didn't find a way to cost the Steelers many games on his way to helping Pittsburgh grab their fifth Lombardi trophy.

    Fast-forward to 2007:

    Ben Roethisberger:

    63.3% Completion Rate
    7.9 YPA (NFL Rank- 7th)
    13 TD (NFL Rank- 4th)/5 INT
    39.8% First Down per Attempt (NFL Rank- 4th)
    19.05% 20+ Yard pass per Completion (NFL Rank- 2nd)
    101.1 QB Rating (NFL Rank- 5th)

    Average at best? Give me a break. Only Tom Brady has thrown 13 or more TD passes with as few or fewer picks. Nearly 20% of his completions go for 20 or more yards, yet only five tosses have been intercepted. Yeah, he's sure been losing games left and right this year. Could the Steelers' offensive line pass block worth a crap, Pitt wins the Denver game last week. But they couldn't so they didn't. So it goes.

    You might not want to believe it, but we're not talking about Kordell Stewart here. We're talking about a guy who has twice before been in the rarified air of top-five rated passers in the game (2004, 2005). While you're apparently surprised to see him there yet again, I'm not exactly sure why.
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    I hate Benny boy with a passion, but you can't dispute the numbers. He's good and should move the ball down the field at will against the Bengals.

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    The knock on Roethlisberger is that he is a "system" QB, and would struggle in a different system. I tend to believe that, but it's irrelevant. He doesn't play in another system. I'm not sure there's anyone in the NFL that could run that system any better. Their perfect match fell right into their lap.

    Now I'm going to go puke.
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    Re: Bengals v. Squealers err... Stealers... err... Steelers

    Quote Originally Posted by guttle11 View Post
    The knock on Roethlisberger is that he is a "system" QB, and would struggle in a different system.
    I remember hearing similar things about Joe Montana and Steve Young. QB's need good players around them to succeed. A coach and offensive coordinator worth his paycheck will find a way to maximize his QB's strengths.
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