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    Sarasota vote one week from today

    To see if Sarasota stays the Reds Spring Training Home.

    Here's Ballpark Digest latest:

    Sarasota voters will be asked on Nov. 6 to approve $16 million in additional property taxes to renovate Ed Smith Stadium as the spring-training venue of the Cincinnati Reds. But city leaders don't seem to be too enthusiastic about the proposal. Commissioners have not joined Reds supporters in wearing "Vote Yes" T-shirts around town. Even the project's biggest cheerleader, sports facilities manager Pat Calhoon, is barred from advising residents on how to vote. The current proposal is for a $53-million modernization of Ed Smith Stadium and the current spring-training complex, scaled back considerably from the original plan. If the Sarasota vote fails, don't be surprised if the Reds front office casts about for a new spring-training home, perhaps at Dodgertown.


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    Re: Sarasota vote one week from today

    I like Sarasota but am starting to pull for the Reds to land in Vero or Orlando
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    Re: Sarasota vote one week from today

    Here's the link to the story (more info than Ballpark Digest) ....

    http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pb...NEWS/710300319

    No one is Sarasota government is promoting the Yes vote. Only the Reds are ($172,000 worth)
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    Thanks for the article, Jax. Is it just me or is it strange that a $54 Million state of the art facility was scrapped and now the initiative is for a $53 Million renovation? Or did I read that wrong?
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    No you read it right. It's been a very weird deal all along. Part of the extra costs stem from adding a community ballpark on the same property as the Reds so it doesn't look like corporate welfare.

    Bad timing - 2 years ago this thing would have sailed thru. At this point I'd be suprised if it goes thru.
    The lowest acceptable payroll amount for ownership to show they are not greedy pigs is 15 million more than they are currently paying. No matter what that currently is.

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    The Sarasota newspaper is endorsing a yes vote for the stadium deal.

    http://www.heraldtribune.com/article...711040401/1030
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    Didn't realize Enquirer had story on it today.

    http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.d...426/1078/COL02

    Interesting quote from Allen saying that they start looking for other places immediately if vote fails.

    On a side note, for those that have followed the story closely.. the County Commsioner who said he would annouce an agreement with a team "by October"...... didn't
    The lowest acceptable payroll amount for ownership to show they are not greedy pigs is 15 million more than they are currently paying. No matter what that currently is.

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    Re: Sarasota vote one week from today

    Don't a lot of people head down to that area to get away from paying high property taxes?

    The Sarasota paper uses some curious logic in its support of the proposal - "The stadium opened in 1989. Eighteen years later, Ed Smith Stadium and its fields and facilities need a makeover -- just like any office or home." Since when did people start paying extra taxes to upgrade local homes and office parks?
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    Field report today in Sarasota...
    http://www.heraldtribune.com/article...G0142/71106066

    Tuesday, November 6, 2007, 1:26 pm


    Pat Calhoon, sports facilities manager for the City of Sarasota, took the day off work so he could campaign for the $16 million bond referendum to rebuild Ed Smith Stadium. Calhoon stationed himself next to the polling place at Memorial Auditorium. (staff photo/ Mike Lang)
    Going to bat for the stadium

    For Pat Calhoon Election Day was a vacation day. The stakes were too high: by 7 p.m. spring training baseball could be no more in Sarasota.

    So instead of heading to his $83,000-a-year job as the city’s sports facilities manager, Calhoon burned a vacation day, Herald Tribune writer Carol Lee reports. He put on a “Vote Yes” baseball T-shirt, laced up his Nikken sneakers and grabbed his son’s Louisville Slugger for added effect.

    He arrived at the Municipal Auditorium by the time the polls opened at 7 a.m. not as Pat Calhoon the 28-year city employee.

    He stood in the parking lot as Pat Calhoon the city resident who has a five-year-old son he would hate to have to drive to Bradenton to see a spring training baseball game.

    “Vote yes for baseball! How you doing, sir?” Calhoon yells to an elderly man as he headed into the auditorium.

    The voter walked on, no eye contact.

    “He looked away real fast, probably a no,” Calhoon said

    Calhoon stood outside the polling station for six hours Tuesday urging voters to approve the $16 million bond referendum that would fund the city’s portion of a plan to rebuild Ed Smith Stadium for the Cincinnati Reds.

    He parked his Volvo V70 station wagon in the middle of the parking lot and propped a “Vote Yes” sign on the windshield. He stuffed a stack of pamphlets in his jeans pocket (leaving a box of extras in the trunk) and went to work.

    “It’s going to be a close vote because of the tax environment right now,” he said.
    Ed Smith is the largest chunk of Calhoon’s job, and he worked closely with Reds on the city deal that would keep the team spring training in Sarasota for the next 30 years.

    The deal now hinges on the $16 million referendum.

    Calhoon got permission from the city manager to take one of his 20 vacation days to promote it. He cleared the idea with the city attorney.

    He says he is a baseball guy and would vote for the referendum even if it were not so entwined in his livelihood.

    “I’m taking tomorrow off, too,” he said. “I just need to shut it down for a little bit. It’s been a challenging grind.”
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