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    MLBTradeRumors annual list of top Free Agents and their guess on destination:

    1. Alex Rodriguez - Angels. Keith Law recently termed the Angels a "ridiculously good fit" for A-Rod. It's true. Despite what Arte Moreno says, the Angels can afford him, don't hate Scott Boras, have a third base vacancy, are expected to win in 2008, and have a low-pressure fan-base.

    2. Jorge Posada - Yankees. Which team is more likely to throw an unreasonable amount of money at Posada, the Yankees or Mets? The Yankees are more desperate to save face. Plus, as Buster Olney recently noted, they can move him to DH in a few years and the contract might not look terrible.

    3. Mike Lowell - Red Sox. They'll come in around four years and $48MM. Such a deal might be colored slightly by emotion but shouldn't be too damaging. If some team is crazy enough to pony up five guaranteed years, all bets are off.

    4. Torii Hunter - Rangers. The White Sox present serious competition, but the Rangers seem dead-set on Hunter. And of course, he has a home near Ameriquest.

    5. Andy Pettitte - Yankees. A rare case where a player exercises a reasonably priced player option. Pettitte is a different breed of ballplayer.

    6. Mariano Rivera - Yankees. Mo has postured about the Yankees being just one of 30 teams. In the end, he'll retire a Yankee.

    7. Barry Bonds - Padres. I tried hard to make Barry fit on an AL team, and couldn't do it. He's not going to finish his career as DH for the Royals. While the Padres have a decent left field platoon in Scott Hairston and Jason Lane, this would be a Kevin Towers type of move if Bonds would sign for $12MM.

    8. Aaron Rowand - White Sox. They'll flirt with Hunter but get Rowand. You could make a case that this contract will be no worse than Hunter's, given the age and slight salary difference. Bringing Rowand back would be a fan-pleasing move.

    9. Carlos Silva - Mets. Silva is going to have tons of suitors. The Mets will come up with a reliable starter one way or another, and Silva might fit. I was originally going to put Livan Hernandez in Queens. But if you're the Mets, why not tack on another year and $11MM to get the superior, younger guy?

    10. Andruw Jones - Dodgers. This is a questionable match given Ned Colletti's feelings about Scott Boras. And Juan Pierre in left field, ugh. But I could still see this happening for, say, four years and $64MM. Colletti has been willing to overpay a bit to keep the term shorter.

    11. Curt Schilling - Phillies. You all know about his target list. The Phillies don't have a ton to trade and bringing Schilling back would invigorate the fan base more than signing Silva.

    12. Kosuke Fukudome - Giants. They have a lot of free cash. With Barry out of the picture and A-Rod unlikely, snagging the best available Japanese player could still generate some buzz. Plus, the Giants must have identified OBP as a problem by now.

    13. Francisco Cordero - Brewers. Letting Cordero go makes sense, since the Crew could snag a sweet first-round draft pick as compensation. However the Brewers can fit him into the budget and the free agent closer alternatives are uninspiring.

    14. Greg Maddux - Padres. Mad Dog is one Boras client who doesn't always chase top dollar. He's comfortable in San Diego and could probably do this for another five years. He only needs 27 more wins to establish himself as third all-time ahead of Christy Mathewson. Walter Johnson's 417 is out of reach.

    15. Mike Cameron - Astros. The Astros seem all about adding a center fielder and pushing Luke Scott out of the organization. They are one team that could handle Cameron's 25-game suspension without major issues.

    16. Tom Glavine - Braves. Most folks seem to agree that Glavine will retire with his original team. They need rotation depth and this makes sense.

    17. Hiroki Kuroda - Cubs. The Cubs don't seem content to give 40% of their starts to Jason Marquis and Sean Marshall. There's been a lot of buzz early on about the Cubs dipping into the Japanese market. Maybe they can get Kuroda for something like three years, $27MM (way more than he could earn in Japan).

    18. Bartolo Colon - Mariners. This was U.S.S. Mariner's idea. He's a guy who could pair with Felix at the front of the rotation but wouldn't cause the Ms to break the bank or trade away young talent.

    19. Jason Jennings - Rockies. This would be a solid replacement for the consistent 5.00+ ERA of Josh Fogg. Jennings has shown he can get it done in Coors.

    20. Eric Gagne - Tigers. You have to think Scott Boras is trying to convince the Tigers to take a flier on Gagne right now, given Joel Zumaya's injury. They could also be a contender for Francisco Cordero.

    21. Tadahito Iguchi - Mariners. He's a good fit here - the comfort of a huge Japanese following, a need to challenge Jose Lopez with a veteran.

    22. Paul Byrd - Indians. HGH or not, he's worth $8MM on a one-year commitment.

    23. Jose Guillen - Cardinals. Could La Russa keep Guillen in line? He didn't cause any clubhouse problems in Seattle. The Cards could use a right fielder with 25 HR pop, and he might be the only qualifier.

    24. Kyle Lohse - Cardinals. I was going to put him with the Astros but then remembered Drayton McLane's strong dislike of Scott Boras. The Cardinals are seeking one solid starter. Lohse almost qualifies, in this market.

    25. Roger Clemens - Retirement. Some say The Rocket could never go out like this. But coming back for a possibly injury-plagued '08 won't make it better. His usual three options are the Yankees, Red Sox, and Astros. Only the Astros could really entertain it, but they might prefer to close the book on him.

    26. Livan Hernandez - Mariners. The Ms brought in Jeff Weaver, Horacio Ramirez, and Miguel Batista last year. Only Batista stuck. Livan is similar, an innings eater who puts guys on but wiggles out of jams. They had trade interest in him during the summer. If the Mariners sign Colon they'll need someone reliable to complement him.

    27. Hitoki Iwase - Reds. It was tough for me to decide what the Reds will do. Will they sign Silva? Fill a hole with an Adam Dunn trade? The idea of signing a crack Japanese closer seems kind of out there for the Reds, but what the hell. Iwase is going to be popular this winter.

    28. Kenny Rogers - Tigers. He's said it's the Tigers or retirement. He's still effective enough to keep going.

    29. Kenshin Kawakami - Royals. How about an under-the-radar Japanese pitcher for the Royals? New manager Trey Hillman is perfect for this.

    30. Geoff Jenkins - Tigers. The Tigers are looking for a left-handed hitting left fielder, and Jenkins fits the bill.

    31. Freddy Garcia - Padres. I think the Padres could afford to add both Bonds and Garcia. They've already expressed a willingness to bring in a rehab-type or two, as the front three in the rotation should be set once Maddux signs. Matt Clement might be more likely but I could see Garcia for $6-7MM.

    32. Milton Bradley - Cubs. Could Lou keep Milton happy? Bradley could be their consolation prize if they don't win the Fukudome sweepstakes. He's got pop and can help in center or right when healthy. Plus, he's a switch-hitter. They've had trade interest in him in the past.

    33. Luis Castillo - Mets. I think the Mets will sign him for lack of a better option. He did a nice job for them and wants to stay.

    34. Shannon Stewart - White Sox. I was considering the Tribe for Stewart but I know they want power in left field. The White Sox seem like a team that could opt for defense over power at the position.

    35. Kazumi Saito - Not Posted. Just a hunch, but I feel that the Fukuoka Hawks will wait for Saito to have a healthy, effective season before posting him.

    36. Kaz Matsui - Rockies. My guess is that he'll realize that he needs Coors, and settle at a reasonable price.

    37. Juan Uribe - Orioles. I have Uribe as Miguel Tejada's replacement at shortstop. Someone has to fill the void. If the White Sox are intent on adding Eckstein I wouldn't expect them to want Uribe as a $5MM second baseman.

    38. Pedro Feliz - Yankees. I know, it's heresy to suggest the Yankees would settle for the defense and low OBP Feliz provides. But beyond A-Rod and Lowell, what is there? A Joe Crede trade seems quite possible as an alternative.

    39. Joe Borowski - Indians. The Tribe seems reasonably happy with Borowski at $4MM next year.

    40. Todd Jones - Braves. If the Braves decide to stay in-house for their center field solution, they could use the excess cash to add Jones. He wants to play there and could take a discount (granted, they already have Rafael Soriano and Mike Gonzalez).

    41. Yorvit Torrealba - Mets. I don't see the Mets being crazy enough to give Posada five years. Torrealba seems sufficient, no worse than the other options. A Ramon Hernandez trade seems to be a popular alternative.

    42. Kenny Lofton - Twins. A trade for Coco Crisp to play center is plenty possible. But otherwise there's always Lofton to step in and not embarrass you.

    43. David Riske - Phillies. I'm not sold on Riske being good for the next three years. However he's healthy and had a very good 2007, and that will get him a nice contract.

    44. Randy Wolf - Diamondbacks. Part of me knows that the D'Backs really don't need more injury risk in their rotation. Still, Wolf is a smart signing and there are only so many innings-eaters to go around.

    45. Michael Barrett - Marlins. Barrett seems like the Marlins' type of bargain signing. For $3MM, he could surprise. Also, maybe he could play some third base if Miguel Cabrera is traded.

    46. Masahide Kobayashi - Devil Rays. It wouldn't surprise anyone to see the Rays find a Japanese bargain. Kobayashi's deceptive delivery could result in a year or two of MLB success.

    47. David Eckstein - White Sox. They've liked him for a while. It's time for a change at shortstop, and Eckstein is at least someone different (and not lazy). Kenny Williams could certainly make a trade instead.

    48. Luis Gonzalez - Twins. He's unwanted, so he'll be affordable. Adding Lofton and Gonzo wouldn't impress anyone, but the Twins aren't big spenders. Maybe Bill Smith will opt for a Jason Bay trade instead.

    49. Mike Lamb - Phillies. The pickin's are slim at third base. A Lamb/Helms platoon might be league average. Otherwise I could see a Crede trade.

    50. Jon Lieber - Nationals. They're looking for a veteran starter on a one-year deal. I think Liebs could be that guy for $5-6MM.

    Honorable mentions: Brad Wilkerson, Mike Piazza, Troy Percival, Kris Benson, Omar Vizquel, Scott Linebrink, Paul Lo Duca, Octavio Dotel, Ramon Castro, Corey Patterson
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    Sweet.

    Iwase actually makes sense, but if they are going to be true to their word they need to be involved on a few more of these names.

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    only one player out of the top fifty. let me be the first to say i would be a little upset by this. if the FO wants to get us to notice they will need to do more than this.
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    Like I said, if we can convince a Japanese pitcher to come to Cincinnati, Kuroda should be the target. If he can be had for 3/27, I take a shot.

    Another interesting name to consider if they can't sign Silva is Bartolo Colon. Why not take a chance and hope he could regain his form? I can't imagine he would cost that much.
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    This list was well done, even if it's speculation.

    17. Hiroki Kuroda - Cubs. The Cubs don't seem content to give 40% of their starts to Jason Marquis and Sean Marshall. There's been a lot of buzz early on about the Cubs dipping into the Japanese market. Maybe they can get Kuroda for something like three years, $27MM (way more than he could earn in Japan).
    You know, I agree with this. The Cubs don't seem high on Marshall. The Reds desperately need a southpaw in the rotation and you've gotta believe that Marshall's value is low right now, at least in the eyes of the Cubs. What could be offered up? My inclination would be to say Hamilton, because they seemingly need OF help, but since they already gave up Hamilton for less than the price of a Mercedes, I don't think they'd go for him. Would you offer up Bailey or Cueto for Marshall?

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    Im sorry but a list that list that has a 36 year old catcher as the #2 FA on the market really doesn't do much for me. It is interesting but I also wonder how accurate these list tend to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1 View Post
    This list was well done, even if it's speculation.



    You know, I agree with this. The Cubs don't seem high on Marshall. The Reds desperately need a southpaw in the rotation and you've gotta believe that Marshall's value is low right now, at least in the eyes of the Cubs. What could be offered up? My inclination would be to say Hamilton, because they seemingly need OF help, but since they already gave up Hamilton for less than the price of a Mercedes, I don't think they'd go for him. Would you offer up Bailey or Cueto for Marshall?
    First, they didn't give up Hamilton. They agreed to make a pick for the Reds, once that was agreed on, the Reds told them who to pick. They would not tip their cards first, that would not make any sense.

    And absolutely not on your trade proposals, any of the three would be bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    Another interesting name to consider if they can't sign Silva is Bartolo Colon. Why not take a chance and hope he could regain his form? I can't imagine he would cost that much.
    I agree. Him and maybe Matt Clement and Freddy Garcia. Make the deals incentive based. Krivsky is known for striking gold on small cost opportunities. This would have the makings of that..
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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    First, they didn't give up Hamilton. They agreed to make a pick for the Reds, once that was agreed on, the Reds told them who to pick. They would not tip their cards first, that would not make any sense.

    And absolutely not on your trade proposals, any of the three would be bad.
    Is that accurate? I thought the Cubs let Hamilton go.

    As for the 2nd part, on what basis? Marshall has proven more at the Major League level than Bailey or Cueto has (a 3.92 ERA in over 100 innings for a soutpaw isn't so bad). As for Hamilton, there is already an OF jam in Cincy and his health remains questionable. I'd trade Hamilton for Marshall and I wouldn't think twice.

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    FYI--Last year's list had 12 out 50 Free Agents predicted correctly.

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    I'd be pretty jazzed if the Reds stayed away from the majority of the free agents out there, but managed to land Iwase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1 View Post
    Is that accurate? I thought the Cubs let Hamilton go.

    As for the 2nd part, on what basis? Marshall has proven more at the Major League level than Bailey or Cueto has (a 3.92 ERA in over 100 innings for a soutpaw isn't so bad). As for Hamilton, there is already an OF jam in Cincy and his health remains questionable. I'd trade Hamilton for Marshall and I wouldn't think twice.
    Krivsky made a deal with the Cubs to make the Reds pick and then trade the player. The Cubs had no idea who the pick was to be and very few people in the Reds organization even knew that Hamilton was being considered. Basically the way I understood it was that the Cubs traded the pick to the Reds but had to do it in such a way.

    How does trading one of the bright stars in the NL make this reds team better? One has to assume that Hamilton will only improve on last years season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1 View Post
    This list was well done, even if it's speculation.



    You know, I agree with this. The Cubs don't seem high on Marshall. The Reds desperately need a southpaw in the rotation and you've gotta believe that Marshall's value is low right now, at least in the eyes of the Cubs. What could be offered up? My inclination would be to say Hamilton, because they seemingly need OF help, but since they already gave up Hamilton for less than the price of a Mercedes, I don't think they'd go for him. Would you offer up Bailey or Cueto for Marshall?

    Sorry, but these are some of the worst trade proposals I have ever seen. I wouldn't mind going after Marshall, but I would NEVER offer Hamilton, Bailey, or Cueto for him. I would however, offer them Stubbs, Freel, Gonzalez, Keppinger, or maybe even a post-600 HR Griffey (and his contract).
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    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    Krivsky made a deal with the Cubs to make the Reds pick and then trade the player. The Cubs had no idea who the pick was to be and very few people in the Reds organization even knew that Hamilton was being considered. Basically the way I understood it was that the Cubs traded the pick to the Reds but had to do it in such a way.

    How does trading one of the bright stars in the NL make this reds team better? One has to assume that Hamilton will only improve on last years season.
    It's quite simple: Balance. The Reds have plenty of offense and are pitching starved. You trade some offense to get some pitching. The Reds can continue to run out these teams with an explosive offense year after year with marginal pitching and they'll continue to stay in the 65-75 games won per year category.

    Sorry, but these are some of the worst trade proposals I have ever seen. I wouldn't mind going after Marshall, but I would NEVER offer Hamilton, Bailey, or Cueto for him. I would however, offer them Stubbs, Freel, Gonzalez, Keppinger, or maybe even a post-600 HR Griffey (and his contract).
    I'd be reluctant to trade Cueto, but I wouldn't think twice about trading Hamilton and I would probably do Bailey as well. You could try offering up what you suggested above, but the Reds should prepare to hear a dialtone shortly after.

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    You trade a Bailey, a Cueto, and/or a Hamilton for a Bedard, a Kazmir, a Haren or something comparable. If you even think about trading one of them to the Cubs, you better be getting Rich Hill back instead of Marshall.

    And you would not get a dialtone after offering Griffey up for Marshall. That exact deal was heavily discussed during this past season. The Cubs were demanding that Jacque Jones be included as well.
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