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    Re: Reds after Cordero

    Like others have said, I'm cautiously optimistic about this as well. If this is the only move the Reds make it probably isn't very smart. But if we can get another rotation arm and possibly another middle relief arm then this could be very important.

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    Re: Reds after Cordero

    1) Sign top notch closer
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    3) Win division

    so....what is #2?
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    Re: Reds after Cordero

    Awesome, awesome move. I'm stunned.

    Cordero is a dominant closer. Jared Burton should be our 8th inning guy and Weathers the 7th. Bill Bray is pretty good against lefties and Brad Salmon dominated RH batters to the tune of a .573 OPS in roughly 70 PA. That's a solid bullpen right there. Now find two more relievers from Coutlangus, McBeth, maybe rookies like Tyler Pelland, Josh Roenicke, or Ramon Ramirez.

    Now find another starter, Wayne.

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    Re: Reds after Cordero

    Quote Originally Posted by deltachi8 View Post
    1) Sign top notch closer
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    3) Win division

    so....what is #2?
    I'm hoping that it's move Freel and or Hamilton as mentioned before for a man to fill out the rotation.

    I'd hate to lose Hamilton, but if we could get a solid #3 type for him, I'd be all for it.

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    Re: Reds after Cordero

    I think the contract is too long for Cordero, but we shall see. I would have preferred to had a proven starter, but there wasn't much out there. As long as this isn't it for the Reds, it will be a decent move. I don't think this really makes the Reds a contender for '08, but it's a good start. I hope they give him a physical before the names are signed.

    The Reds really need another starter, a right handed bat, and a Jeremy Affeldt type for the bullpen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Awesome, awesome move. I'm stunned.

    Cordero is a dominant closer. Jared Burton should be our 8th inning guy and Weathers the 7th. Bill Bray is pretty good against lefties and Brad Salmon dominated RH batters to the tune of a .573 OPS in roughly 70 PA. That's a solid bullpen right there. Now find two more relievers from Coutlangus, McBeth, maybe rookies like Tyler Pelland, Josh Roenicke, or Ramon Ramirez.

    Now find another starter, Wayne.
    Agree. I also have a hunch that Josh Roenicke could be in the 7th and 8th inning mix by the end of the year. Cordero, Burton and Roenicke provide some heat out there and if Pelland and Salmon come along so do they. Nasty Boys II? Pretty good considering last year the best hope for a hard thrower was Todd Coffey who now seems an afterthought. Weathers actually could get a boost by being the guy who provides the different look.
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    Re: Reds after Cordero

    That's a ton of cash, I like signing a good bp arm, but we overpaid for the save stat.

    How high will payroll go and how much cash is BOb willing to lose to get a winner? will we be able to keep Dunn? Phillips?

    Hmm.
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    Rojo likes. Do you keep Weathers? I wonder.
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    Re: Reds after Cordero

    This would make a nice Christmas present to start for us Reds fans.
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    Re: Reds after Cordero

    I clicked on this threat assuming the Reds were trying to coax Wil Cordero out of retirement to compete for the first base job and show their youngsters how to play the game the right way.
    Needless to say, I'm pleasantly surprised.

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    Re: Reds after Cordero

    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed View Post
    That's a ton of cash, I like signing a good bp arm, but we overpaid for the save stat.

    How high will payroll go and how much cash is BOb willing to lose to get a winner? will we be able to keep Dunn? Phillips?

    Hmm.
    If the Payroll jumps to the $80 Million that baseball's increased revenue suggests it should (probably should have jumped to $75 Million last year), then this signing just uses the increment from last year. The payflex from Milton, Larue, Cormier, Lohse, Saarloos and hopefully a few other moves of guys like Stanton and maybe Freel should still provide some wiggle room. I know some raises to Dunn, Harang and Arroyo have eaten some of that, but I don't think the team is that much worse off right now. Especially if they can move Stanton.

    I'm being optimistic. The Reds have frittered away so much on junk the last few years, I don't mind overpaying a little for an impact guy.
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    Re: Reds after Cordero

    I like the signing...a ton of cash to make a statement.

    All along since Mr. C purchased the team I have stayed quiet about payroll...I don't think anyone can really say what is or isn't too much for the team to fit into payroll because the team is so close to the vest on this sort of thing...if it fills the need, I am sure Mr. C will find the cash.

    I like having a good BP so I say the team keeps Weathers too.
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    Holy Jehosifats.

    A bona fide hard thrower.

    I think M2's being proven correct in his assertion that the Baker hire was a sign of more to come than just a manager hiring and crossed fingers.

    Looks like Castellini has pressed the button.
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    Re: Reds after Cordero

    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo View Post
    Rojo likes. Do you keep Weathers? I wonder.
    No question, unless someone wants to trade 2 young arms for him
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    Re: Reds after Cordero

    Quote Originally Posted by deltachi8 View Post
    1) Sign top notch closer
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    3) Win division

    so....what is #2?
    Collect underpants?

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