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    Pirates Might Trade Matt Morris

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns

    Pirates could be looking to deal Morris... the writer of the article makes a good point that he's got one year left on his contract which is better than Livan Hernandez (who's looking at 3 yrs). Would you trade for him? Who would you trade?

    I think Maloney for Morris might be fair?

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    Re: Pirates Might Trade Matt Morris

    I believe he would cost about $10 million according to the article for 1 year. I would trade Maloney for him, but we would take on some more salary.

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    Yeah, doing this deal assumes we're going to take on some salary, but I think a 1 yr. stop-gap is best for us (gives time for Bailey & Cueto & the '09 FA market). This year's FAs that might take a 1yr deal is probably limited to Lieber... who would be okay if we could get him, but I read somewhere that Livan wants 3yrs 24mil ... we're definitely not going to do that .... so Matt Morris would be a pretty dependable #3 to hold down the fort for a year .. at 9.5mil, its pretty steep but would help out this year while saving our top prospects from having to trade for a #3 ... I'd be pleased if WK did it.

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    Re: Pirates Might Trade Matt Morris

    Pirates have to be the worst ran club in sports right now

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    Re: Pirates Might Trade Matt Morris

    Yeah or lets just resign Milton...same result

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    Re: Pirates Might Trade Matt Morris

    I would have to imagine that there are similar pitchers out there who would be cheaper. If The Pirates would take on half of his salary, maybe a non 40 man roster prospect.

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    Re: Pirates Might Trade Matt Morris

    I think Morris is better than Milton. To me he would be 2 till July at least.

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    Re: Pirates Might Trade Matt Morris

    I'd rather he be on the Pirates so we get to hit off of him
    "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

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    Re: Pirates Might Trade Matt Morris

    Matt Morris = Eric Milton
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    Re: Pirates Might Trade Matt Morris

    Well, checking out his stats, he hasn't been horrible, but his stats are on the decline since abou 2004, slightly.

    Year Team G GS W L SV CG SHO IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP BAA
    1997 STL 33 33 12 9 0 3 0 217.0 208 88 77 12 69 149 3.19 1.28 .258
    1998 STL 17 17 7 5 0 2 1 113.2 101 37 32 8 42 79 2.53 1.26 .243
    2000 STL 31 0 3 3 4 0 0 53.0 53 22 21 3 17 34 3.57 1.32 .261
    2001 STL 34 34 22 8 0 2 1 216.1 218 86 76 13 54 185 3.16 1.26 .265
    2002 STL 32 32 17 9 0 1 1 210.1 210 86 80 16 64 171 3.42 1.30 .261
    2003 STL 27 27 11 8 0 5 3 172.1 164 76 72 20 39 120 3.76 1.18 .252
    2004 STL 32 32 15 10 0 3 2 202.0 205 116 106 35 56 131 4.72 1.29 .266
    2005 STL 31 31 14 10 0 2 0 192.2 209 101 88 22 37 117 4.11 1.28 .276
    2006 SF 33 33 10 15 0 2 0 207.2 218 123 115 22 63 117 4.98 1.35 .268
    2007 SF 21 21 7 7 0 3 0 136.2 162 79 66 12 39 73 4.35 1.47 .296
    2007 PIT 11 11 3 4 0 0 0 62.0 78 44 42 6 22 29 6.10 1.61 .315

    Opponents batting average against him has risen, and so has his HR's allowed. He was allowing less than 20 HR's per season in St. Louis until later in his career. He does eat 200 innings per year. Last year was his worst .......and could be due to just playing on bad teams.

    I'm indifferent about him.
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    Re: Pirates Might Trade Matt Morris

    why did they trade for morris at the deadline? everyone was wondering that at the time, and now they aren't going to keep him? sounds like a pretty weird operation to me.

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    Re: Pirates Might Trade Matt Morris

    Quote Originally Posted by mroby85 View Post
    why did they trade for morris at the deadline? everyone was wondering that at the time, and now they aren't going to keep him? sounds like a pretty weird operation to me.
    Don't know if they ARE going to trade him, the article I linked was just a writer suggesting that they SHOULD - there's a big difference there... so, who knows.

    I don't know why people are comparing Morris to Milton - one year of Morris would cost us about the same as one year of Leiber and no one jumps off the bridge when Leiber's name is brought up ...

    I'm not suggesting the Reds build the rotation around Morris or anything of the sort, but w/ our developing pitchers and the prospect of jumping into the richer 2009 FA market, we basically just need a 1yr. stop-gap innings-eater...and I think Morris could meet that need.

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    Re: Pirates Might Trade Matt Morris

    I wouldn't be completely against morris as a pitcher, but i think he's way overpaid, thats the reason i wouldn't want them to get him. I'd rather use that money on something else, and take my chances with a guy like belisle who will be similar imo.

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    Re: Pirates Might Trade Matt Morris

    Quote Originally Posted by ChatterRed View Post
    Well, checking out his stats, he hasn't been horrible, but his stats are on the decline since abou 2004, slightly.

    Year Team G GS W L SV CG SHO IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP BAA
    1997 STL 33 33 12 9 0 3 0 217.0 208 88 77 12 69 149 3.19 1.28 .258
    1998 STL 17 17 7 5 0 2 1 113.2 101 37 32 8 42 79 2.53 1.26 .243
    2000 STL 31 0 3 3 4 0 0 53.0 53 22 21 3 17 34 3.57 1.32 .261
    2001 STL 34 34 22 8 0 2 1 216.1 218 86 76 13 54 185 3.16 1.26 .265
    2002 STL 32 32 17 9 0 1 1 210.1 210 86 80 16 64 171 3.42 1.30 .261
    2003 STL 27 27 11 8 0 5 3 172.1 164 76 72 20 39 120 3.76 1.18 .252
    2004 STL 32 32 15 10 0 3 2 202.0 205 116 106 35 56 131 4.72 1.29 .266
    2005 STL 31 31 14 10 0 2 0 192.2 209 101 88 22 37 117 4.11 1.28 .276
    2006 SF 33 33 10 15 0 2 0 207.2 218 123 115 22 63 117 4.98 1.35 .268
    2007 SF 21 21 7 7 0 3 0 136.2 162 79 66 12 39 73 4.35 1.47 .296
    2007 PIT 11 11 3 4 0 0 0 62.0 78 44 42 6 22 29 6.10 1.61 .315

    Opponents batting average against him has risen, and so has his HR's allowed. He was allowing less than 20 HR's per season in St. Louis until later in his career. He does eat 200 innings per year. Last year was his worst .......and could be due to just playing on bad teams.

    I'm indifferent about him.
    and to think we lost a bidding war for this guy
    WHEN DOES IT STOP!?!?

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    Re: Pirates Might Trade Matt Morris

    Quote Originally Posted by mroby85 View Post
    I wouldn't be completely against morris as a pitcher, but i think he's way overpaid, thats the reason i wouldn't want them to get him. I'd rather use that money on something else, and take my chances with a guy like belisle who will be similar imo.
    Good point. People forget Belisle is still young and learning. He was a highly rated prospect at one time. I think he could be on the verge of becoming that #3 or #4 starter we're looking for as he matures. Let's hope for the best.......as he comes cheaply.
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