I actually compared Cueto to Ian Snell a while back. Mario Soto also comes to mind.
I actually compared Cueto to Ian Snell a while back. Mario Soto also comes to mind.
Ortiz has a different body today than in 1996. Who knows what Francisco will look like in say 2014? You put 40 lbs on Juan and I'll bet you see a lot of similarities in the two of them. Their numbers in single A are very comparable, if you look at hits, HR's and RBI's.
They are both big,left handed hitters and Juan will be playing 1B or DH at some point in his career. Don't forget at one point in 2003, David (Arias) Ortiz was cut by the Twins. The fans in Beantown are still pretty happy about that.
RBI is not exactly a repeatable stat. The big difference between the two players is Ortiz has always understood strikezone judgement and Francisco swings at everything thrown that isn't behind him (slight exaggeration). Oritz hit nearly 60 points higher in batting average department, probably thanks to his understanding of the strikezone. As far as 40 pounds on JF... well that still leaves him about 20-30 pounds short of where Ortiz is.
They list Ortiz at 237 and Francisco at 180. I saw Francisco in person at least 15 times this year and there is no way he 180 lbs.He has to be at least 220 lbs. Logan Parker is also about 220 lbs. No doubt Juan strikes out way too much. He does have tremendous power though. Hopefully he can learn some plate discipline. You can get him out with 2 curve balls in dirt and a fastball up out of the zone most of the time.
Last edited by Redman15; 11-27-2007 at 07:01 PM.
Joey Votto-I always think Ryan Klesko
Waring-Troy Glaus?
Votto just reminds me of Will Clark. Can't really explain why.
I like the Votto-Klesko comparison.
Some others:
Dorn - Good comp, Brad Hawpe (corner OF, LH platoon hitter with power); not so good comp, Jorge Piedra
Stubbs - Ruben Rivera
Last edited by M2; 11-28-2007 at 01:08 PM.
I'm not a system player. I am a system.
Yes, it's not a new comp. Nonetheless, it's probably a pretty good one.
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
Does Snell throw a slider or a curve? I've seen each listed, but not both. The Pitch/Fx data says he throws a slider.
Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.
Benito Santiago and Devin Mesoraco.
I think I'd be fairly happy with that.
0 Value Over Replacement Poster
"Sit over here next to Johnathan (Bench)...sit right here, he's smart."--Sparky Anderson
This thread is turning into a bunch of dreamy mental masturbation to whomever's fav's. Sorry to rain on anybody's fantasy, but sheesh.......
I wouldn't call him a prospect, but I'd compare Norris Hopper to Greg Tubbs.
Get MLBtraderumors Reds updates on Facebook.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reds-R...33794710005587
http://i.imgur.com/1bCKpaH.jpg
Board Moderators may, at their discretion and judgment, delete and/or edit any messages that violate any of the following guidelines: 1. Explicit references to alleged illegal or unlawful acts. 2. Graphic sexual descriptions. 3. Racial or ethnic slurs. 4. Use of edgy language (including masked profanity). 5. Direct personal attacks, flames, fights, trolling, baiting, name-calling, general nuisance, excessive player criticism or anything along those lines. 6. Posting spam. 7. Each person may have only one user account. It is fine to be critical here - that's what this board is for. But let's not beat a subject or a player to death, please. |