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    Matt Garza

    Every sports writer in the country seems to believe Garza will be traded for a young bat. Now the Twins beat writer is pimping a Garza for Carlos Quentin deal.

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    If Carlos Quentin is all they are seeking, surely we can offer a LOT more. Maybe something like Votto and Francisco? The Twins also supposedly like Hatteberg. GET IT DONE, WAYNE!
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    Re: Matt Garza

    This seems like a deal that can be made. Hamilton for Garza? Seems like that would easily do it if Quentin is what they wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AvesIce51 View Post
    This seems like a deal that can be made. Hamilton for Garza? Seems like that would easily do it if Quentin is what they wanted.
    Seriously. I would start with an offer of Votto and Francisco if all they were seeking was Quentin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    Seriously. I would start with an offer of Votto and Francisco if all they were seeking was Quentin.
    I would rather try to trade a surplus area for us. After Hatte, who would play first unless we move Dunn there, then I would have NO problem with this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AvesIce51 View Post
    This seems like a deal that can be made. Hamilton for Garza? Seems like that would easily do it if Quentin is what they wanted.
    Makes sense to me. Quentin is not a CF, which is what the Twins need ... and Quentin is coming off a poor season due to an injured shoulder.

    I'd go Hamilton, Hatty and a minor league arm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AvesIce51 View Post
    This seems like a deal that can be made. Hamilton for Garza? Seems like that would easily do it if Quentin is what they wanted.
    Why the rush to trade Hamilton? He hasn't displayed his full value yet. He may have had some injuries last year but he played more games than he had in his life and hadn't played in four years. I almost think if he played bad defense he would be more appreciated around here because he would fit into the model of the classic SABR hero. This guy is a once in a generation talent, rated higher when he was drafted than Griffey or A-Rod. At least let him hit 35 or so hrs this year and get some real return for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheelhouse View Post
    Why the rush to trade Hamilton? He hasn't displayed his full value yet. He may have had some injuries last year but he played more games than he had in his life and hadn't played in four years. I almost think if he played bad defense he would be more appreciated around here because he would fit into the model of the classic SABR hero. This guy is a once in a generation talent, rated higher when he was drafted than Griffey or A-Rod. At least let him hit 35 or so hrs this year and get some real return for him.
    Very true, yet right now the Reds are stuck with an outfield surplus and a shortage of pitching. From a talent standpoint, I'd rather trade just about anyone other than Hamilton (with the exception of Bruce). However from a reality standpoint, Hamilton is a luxury for the Reds and in demand from other teams. Not to mention the whole relapse threat...

    I would rather trade any other position player with the exception of Bruce and Phillips. But if the Reds want to get any kind of talent in return, Hamilton is gonna be the guy everybody wants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheelhouse View Post
    Why the rush to trade Hamilton? He hasn't displayed his full value yet. He may have had some injuries last year but he played more games than he had in his life and hadn't played in four years. I almost think if he played bad defense he would be more appreciated around here because he would fit into the model of the classic SABR hero. This guy is a once in a generation talent, rated higher when he was drafted than Griffey or A-Rod. At least let him hit 35 or so hrs this year and get some real return for him.
    Can he pitch?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheelhouse View Post
    Why the rush to trade Hamilton? He hasn't displayed his full value yet. He may have had some injuries last year but he played more games than he had in his life and hadn't played in four years. I almost think if he played bad defense he would be more appreciated around here because he would fit into the model of the classic SABR hero. This guy is a once in a generation talent, rated higher when he was drafted than Griffey or A-Rod. At least let him hit 35 or so hrs this year and get some real return for him.
    If it is for Garza, I rush to trade him. He could implode any second, his body obviously got worn down through the rough years, his weakest link, is the teams weakest (hitting LHP).

    Do I want him on the team? Heck yeah, but I would take Garza for him.

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    Re: Matt Garza

    The Twins are also negotiating with the Red Sox for Coco Crisp. Garza is allegedly on the block in that deal.
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    If the Sox get Garza, I have to believe they'd be shipping him elsewhere. Imagine Crisp + Prospect for Garza and then Garza, Lester, Prospect (Lowrie?) for Haren.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    If the Sox get Garza, I have to believe they'd be shipping him elsewhere. Imagine Crisp + Prospect for Garza and then Garza, Lester, Prospect (Lowrie?) for Haren.
    That sounds very realistic. The Twins would ask for cash, too, which the Red Sox would happily include.
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    Re: Matt Garza

    I can see the Reds offering Votto for Garza or Votto and Stubbs. I see Jr. leaving after 2008 to either retirement or FA. without Jr. I see Dunn finally making the switch to 1B. that gives the Reds an OF of Hamilton, Bruce and somebody. I'd hate to lose Votto, but the if the Reds are really going for it in '08, they need another SP.
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    I would think the Twins would be a lot more interested in OFs than 1Bs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyer85 View Post
    I would think the Twins would be a lot more interested in OFs than 1Bs.
    Some, but, remember this is a team that wasted DH at bats on Jason Tyner, so it's not like they'd have to be all that picky about position to wind up with an offensive upgrade somewhere.
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