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    Delmon Young to Minnesota for Matt Garza

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3131988

    The Minnesota Twins and Tampa Bay Rays are close to a swap of two potential future stars.

    The Twins would acquire outfielder Delmon Young in exchange for right-hander Matt Garza, sources told ESPN.com's Keith Law.

    The potential swap was first reported by the Minneapolis Star Tribune, which reported the deal could involve as many as six players, with shortstop Jason Bartlett and reliever Juan Rincon going to Tampa Bay in the deal and shortstop Brendan Harris and outfield prospect Jason Pridie coming to Minnesota.

    In addition to the Young deal, the Rays are also moving toward a deal to sign reliever Troy Percival, ESPN The Magazine's Buster Olney reports.

    Young, 22, hit .288 with 13 home runs and 93 RBIs in his first full major league season. Garza, 24, was 5-7 with a 3.69 ERA in 15 starts for the Twins in 2007.

    The No. 1 overall pick in the 2003 draft, Young has struggled to keep his temper in check during his time in professional baseball. He received a 50-game suspension after flipping his bat into the chest of a Triple-A umpire in 2006, and was suspended three games by the Southern League for bumping an umpire while playing for Double-A Montgomery in 2005.

    Young is the younger brother of Washington first baseman Dmitri Young.
    Great deal for the Twins IMO. Delmon has great potential and should offensively make up for the loss of Torii Hunter. Tampa is going to be chuck full of pitching if you look at Kazmir, Price, Garza, and McGee.
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    Re: Delmon Young to Minnesota for Matt Garza

    Good trade. Young might be a younger version of Torri Hunter who plays RF. Losing Garza doesn't really hurt the Twins especially if they trade Santana and get two or three arms in return.
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    Re: Delmon Young to Minnesota for Matt Garza

    So they wouldn't take Freel for Garza? The key to the deal is Harris. If only the Reds had kept him, Garza would be Cincy bound. (sorry, didn't see the other thread where this seems to actually be getting discussed without tongue in cheek.)
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    Re: Delmon Young to Minnesota for Matt Garza

    Wow...nice deal!

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    Re: Delmon Young to Minnesota for Matt Garza

    Looking forward to the gradual rise of the Rays in the East. If/when they ever finish ahead of the Yankees or Red Sox, it will be a great day in baseball.

    Twins keeping themselves interesting, too, with a very solid middle of the order -- Mauer, Young, Morneau, Cuddyer -- and young starters Liriano (if he can stay healthy), Slowey, Baker, Bonser plus whoever they get for Santana.

    Interesting to see teams unafraid of dealing young talent in a swap that makes sense for both sides. Reds seem to be in a position to do the same, but will they?
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    Re: Delmon Young to Minnesota for Matt Garza

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Wow...nice deal!
    Clearly the deal is timed to upstage the Cordero press conf.

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    Re: Delmon Young to Minnesota for Matt Garza

    Gosh, my favorite Devil Ray gone to one of my least favorite teams.

    I think the Rays got hosed (though admittedly Young's OBP left a lot to be desired). Other than his control, I'm not that impressed with Matt Garza.

    Here's hoping Evan Longoria is all he's cracked up to be.
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    Re: Delmon Young to Minnesota for Matt Garza

    Quote Originally Posted by Dom Heffner View Post
    Gosh, my favorite Devil Ray gone to one of my least favorite teams.

    I think the Rays got hosed (though admittedly Young's OBP left a lot to be desired). Other than his control, I'm not that impressed with Matt Garza.

    Here's hoping Evan Longoria is all he's cracked up to be.
    Yes, Young is a huge price to pay for Garza but at least the Rays also dramatically upgraded their defense at shortstop.
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    Re: Delmon Young to Minnesota for Matt Garza

    Quote Originally Posted by klw View Post
    So they wouldn't take Freel for Garza? The key to the deal is Harris. If only the Reds had kept him, Garza would be Cincy bound. (sorry, didn't see the other thread where this seems to actually be getting discussed without tongue in cheek.)
    You're completely missing the strategy..... now the Rays have a hole in right to go along with their preexisting pen troubles.... domino #2: Kazmir (and cash?) to the Reds for Freel/Coffey to the Rays ....
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    Re: Delmon Young to Minnesota for Matt Garza

    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    Interesting to see teams unafraid of dealing young talent in a swap that makes sense for both sides. Reds seem to be in a position to do the same, but will they?
    There's abig difference in trading young talent for young talent than trading young talent for expensive, FA's to be.

    Put me in the corner that says that Young is hugely over rated. His OPS was less than .800 last year, and his lack of plate discipline will likely keep his upside to that of a RF Torri Hunter type (which is OK,but not a real star).

    BUt he could stretch himself into a Vlad type player.

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    Re: Delmon Young to Minnesota for Matt Garza

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    There's abig difference in trading young talent for young talent than trading young talent for expensive, FA's to be.

    Put me in the corner that says that Young is hugely over rated. His OPS was less than .800 last year, and his lack of plate discipline will likely keep his upside to that of a RF Torri Hunter type (which is OK,but not a real star).

    But he could stretch himself into a Vlad type player.
    I've also read somewhere though that Garza is a difficult type perhaps along the lines of Brett Tomko. So it looks like both have some warts which makes the deal that much fairer. People shouldn't forget that Dmitri was also a top prospect, not as high as Delmon but still a quality prospect. And Dmitri can swing the lumber but his other issues have kept him from reaching his potential.
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    Re: Delmon Young to Minnesota for Matt Garza

    This doesn't make sense for Minnesota if they're planning on trading Santana.
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    Re: Delmon Young to Minnesota for Matt Garza

    Maybe they thought Young was just too good to pass up?

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    Re: Delmon Young to Minnesota for Matt Garza

    Quote Originally Posted by MWM View Post
    This doesn't make sense for Minnesota if they're planning on trading Santana.
    Maybe the Santana return will include a couple of pitchers
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    Re: Delmon Young to Minnesota for Matt Garza

    Now a Santana trade will likely include pithers if a trade is even made. My bet is he stays in Minny. And now Garza is off the radar.


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