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    Re: Reds at Winter Meetings

    If we do open a hole @ 3B by moving EdE, I heard that D'Meat may be available from the Nats. :dancingco

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    Re: Reds at Winter Meetings

    Quote Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo View Post
    If he could play 3rd close to the way he plays 2nd he would be far more valuable to us. And it's not as if he would have to re-learn 2nd if it didn't work out. I say trying things like that in say the spring never hurt anyone and it may help a great deal. 2nd basemen is one of if not the easiest positions to fill in the game, 3rd is not.
    That is so very, very wrong. Your 2B is resposible for roughly 300 extra fielding chances. The average or replacement level hitter at 3B is also far better than the average or replacement level 2B. Phillips plays plus defense at a more critical defensive position, 2B, and his bat is more valuable there than if he provided the same production at 3B.
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    Re: Reds at Winter Meetings

    Quote Originally Posted by corkedbat View Post
    If we do open a hole @ 3B by moving EdE, I heard that D'Meat may be available from the Nats. :dancingco
    Or we could always bring back Conine.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    That is so very, very wrong. Your 2B is resposible for roughly 300 extra fielding chances. The average or replacement level hitter at 3B is also far better than the average or replacement level 2B. Phillips plays plus defense at a more critical defensive position, 2B, and his bat is more valuable there than if he provided the same production at 3B.
    Hmm, good point on the defense. I guess I didn't really look at it that way. The thought I had on the offensive side of it is that he can provide sufficient offense to play there, while the other options we have cannot. Now if they wanna go out and fill the position in FA that's fine with me, but it's harder to find an adequate 3rd baseman than it is to find an adequate 2nd baseman. But still 3rd base needs good defense as well as we all have witnessed w/ EE's problems there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    Or we could always bring back Conine.
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    Re: Reds at Winter Meetings

    The Reds want to acquire a starter, but they spent all their money on Francisco Cordero. The plan is to trade a young player for a cheap starter. Joey Votto and especially Jay Bruce would be near impossible to acquire. However the Reds will listen on Josh Hamilton and Edwin Encarnacion. They never seemed to like Encarnacion. Crasnick thinks the Cubs could work for Hamilton but they'd need to pony up more than Sean Marshall. Would Rich Hill be too much? It's been said in the past that the Rangers inquired on Hamilton. The Giants, meanwhile, would love to pry Encarnacion loose - Noah Lowry anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    The Reds want to acquire a starter, but they spent all their money on Francisco Cordero. The plan is to trade a young player for a cheap starter. Joey Votto and especially Jay Bruce would be near impossible to acquire. However the Reds will listen on Josh Hamilton and Edwin Encarnacion. They never seemed to like Encarnacion. Crasnick thinks the Cubs could work for Hamilton but they'd need to pony up more than Sean Marshall. Would Rich Hill be too much? It's been said in the past that the Rangers inquired on Hamilton. The Giants, meanwhile, would love to pry Encarnacion loose - Noah Lowry anyone?

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    you wouldn't do Edwin Encarnacion for Noah Lowry?
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    Re: Reds at Winter Meetings

    Edwin, Hamilton, Cueto for Lincecum and Lowry?

    1B- Votto
    2B- Phillips
    SS- Gonzo
    3B- Keppinger
    RF- Griffey Jr
    CF- Bruce/Hopper
    LF- Dunn
    C- Ross

    Rotation!- Harang, Lincecum, Arroyo, Bailey, Lowry

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    Re: Reds at Winter Meetings

    Quote Originally Posted by RedLegSuperStar View Post
    you wouldn't do Edwin Encarnacion for Noah Lowry?
    That would be a horrible deal for the Reds. Lowry posted a 1.55 WHIP and 87 bb/87 k in 156 innings in a pitchers park last year. That 3.92 ERA was a mirage.
    I miss Adam Dunn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    That would be a horrible deal for the Reds. Lowry posted a 1.55 WHIP and 87 bb/87 k in 156 innings in a pitchers park last year. That 3.92 ERA was a mirage.
    I would be reluctant to trade Freel for Lowry at this point. Lowry has had some elbow problems and has no value whatsoever in GABP. I think if he came here we would long for the good 'old days of Uncle Milty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    That would be a horrible deal for the Reds. Lowry posted a 1.55 WHIP and 87 bb/87 k in 156 innings in a pitchers park last year. That 3.92 ERA was a mirage.
    Agree. Lowry is on my list of guys I don't want with Boof Bonser, Jason Marquis, Chad Gaudin and most of the free agents. Oh yeah, and now Brett Tomko who I can't believe is even being considered.
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    Re: Reds at Winter Meetings

    Josh Hamilton-OF- Reds Dec. 3 - 10:24 pm et

    The Reds are listening to offers for Josh Hamilton and Edwin Encarnacion.

    ESPN's Jerry Crasnick thinks the Reds will make a play for Hamilton, but that Sean Marshall won't be enough to get a deal done. Rich Hill would, but the Cubs shouldn't part with him for less than a sure thing. Encarnacion would make sense for the Giants, Twins and Phillies, among others.

    My comments:

    The Twins have already traded the guy I wanted (Garza) so I'd probably drop them from the picture. The Giants have Lincecum and Cain, but I doubt they would trade either of those guys for anything less than Bruce, and I wouldn't do that. The Phillies don't really have a lot to offer. Brett Myers for EdE? Would you do it? I don't think I would.

    I would love to see the Reds contact the Rays about one of their young pitchers - Kazmir, Garza, Shields, Niemann, Wade Davis, or Jacob McGee.

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    Re: Reds at Winter Meetings

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    "We have to address the starting pitching, and thatís the main focus right now."

    We certainly can't fault the Reds for not telling us what their aims are this offseason. We'll see about the execution, but they couldn't be more direct about the plan.
    Refreshing, and does make me more enthusiastic about 2008.

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    Re: Reds at Winter Meetings

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    Josh Hamilton-OF- Reds Dec. 3 - 10:24 pm et

    The Reds are listening to offers for Josh Hamilton and Edwin Encarnacion.

    ESPN's Jerry Crasnick thinks the Reds will make a play for Hamilton, but that Sean Marshall won't be enough to get a deal done. Rich Hill would, but the Cubs shouldn't part with him for less than a sure thing. Encarnacion would make sense for the Giants, Twins and Phillies, among others.

    My comments:

    The Twins have already traded the guy I wanted (Garza) so I'd probably drop them from the picture. The Giants have Lincecum and Cain, but I doubt they would trade either of those guys for anything less than Bruce, and I wouldn't do that. The Phillies don't really have a lot to offer. Brett Myers for EdE? Would you do it? I don't think I would.

    I would love to see the Reds contact the Rays about one of their young pitchers - Kazmir, Garza, Shields, Niemann, Wade Davis, or Jacob McGee.
    Ha. I actually suggested the Reds should trade Hamilton for Marshall in another thread. I can't imagine the Cubs would trade Hill for Hamilton though (without the Reds throwing in another player), but if you can get Marshall and a good prospect (since Marshall's value is low right now), I think you do it. If you can get Hill for Hamilton and a prospect, the Reds must do it. I wonder who would be a good choice. The Cubs really only need help in the OF, though they could stand to upgrade another area of their pitching (which is kind of why this doesn't make a lot of sense for them), but who knows how much validity there is to it.

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    Re: Reds at Winter Meetings

    Hamilton for Marshall and Murton?

    Matt Murton-OF-Cubs Dec. 3 - 10:48 am et

    According to the Chicago Tribune, Matt Murton "is available for trade."

    No surprise, since Murton has yet to be given an everyday job in the Cubs' outfield despite being a 26-year-old career .296/.365/.455 hitter. "We still like Murton," general manager Jim Hendry said. "We think Murt's an everyday big-leaguer. He knows we all like him. Life would be a lot easier if Murton were left-handed."
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