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  • Chris Dickerson

    4 4.65%
  • Danny Dorn

    22 25.58%
  • Carlos Fisher

    8 9.30%
  • Juan Francisco

    13 15.12%
  • Carlos Guevara

    1 1.16%
  • Sean Henry

    0 0%
  • Evan Hildenbrandt

    0 0%
  • Sam Lecure

    1 1.16%
  • Tyler Pelland

    5 5.81%
  • Adam Rosales

    6 6.98%
  • Neftali Soto

    1 1.16%
  • Daryl Thompson

    4 4.65%
  • Justin Turner

    1 1.16%
  • Chris Valaika

    3 3.49%
  • Pedro Viola

    3 3.49%
  • Brandon Waring

    5 5.81%
  • Sean Watson

    9 10.47%
  • Other (please specify)

    0 0%
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    The Boss dougdirt's Avatar
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    Redszone Community Prospect Vote: #12

    Vote for the player who you think is the Reds #12 prospect (the best prospect who is not yet on the list). We will go with this as far as you guys want to take it.

    I will post a new list every 2 days with 10-15 options to vote on.

    If you feel like making an argument on why a guy should be voted here, feel free to vote and state why you voted for that player.

    If there is someone that is not currently listed as an option to vote on, vote for 'other' then just state who you want to vote for in the thread.

    If there is anyone you would like to see as an option on the next poll, just say so and if they garner enough support, they will be placed on the next poll. Guys with the lowest amount of votes will usually be removed for the next few guys who were talked about in the previous thread.


    Prospect 1 - Jay Bruce
    Prospect 2 - Homer Bailey
    Prospect 3 - Johnny Cueto
    Prospect 4 - Joey Votto
    Prospect 5 - Todd Frazier
    Prospect 6 - Drew Stubbs
    Prospect 7 - Matt Maloney
    Prospect 8 - Josh Roenicke
    Prospect 9 - Travis Wood
    Prospect 10 - Devin Mesoraco
    Prospect 11 - Kyle Lotzkar

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    Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote: #12

    Carlos Fisher in the HOUSE
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    Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote: #12

    Code:
    LVL PO AG NAME    		  AB HR AVG OBP SLG  SB
    AAA OF 25 Chris Dickerson	1853 47 255 355 403 109
     AA OF 23 Danny Dorn    	 634 28 309 401 524   7
      A 3B 20 Juan Francisco	 752 28 274 303 463  16
     AA OF 22 Sean Henry    	1079 28 278 349 441  74
     AA 3B 24 Adam Rosales  	1121 40 285 368 492  26
    GCL 3B 18 Neftali Soto  	 152  2 303 355 454   2
     A+ 2B 23 Justin Turner 	 717 16 317 383 460  24
     A+ 2B 22 Chris Valaika 	 792 20 298 353 458   3
      A 3B 21 Brandon Waring	 268 20 313 372 616   1
    
    LVL POS  AG NAME		    IP  BB   K  ERA WHIP
     AA RHSP 24 Carlos Fisher	 358.0 106 302 3.39 1.27
     AA RHRP 25 Carlos Guevara	 297.1 105 384 2.91 1.20
     AA RHSP 23 Sam LeCure  	 298.1 107 271 3.65 1.34
    AAA LHRP 24 Tyler Pelland	 494.0 268 462 4.08 1.53
     A+ RHSP 22 Daryl Thompson	 356.2 107 290 3.66 1.28
     AA LHRP 24 Pedro Viola 	  82.1  30  94 1.42 1.03
     A+ RHSP 22 Sean Watson 	 165.1  44 170 3.59 1.17
    I'm going with Sean Watson, and it was an easy choice for me.

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    Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote: #12

    Carlos Fisher because of his mound presence
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    Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote: #12

    Juan Francisco.....based on upside.

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    Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote: #12

    Currently a 4 way tie between Watson, Francisco, Dorn and Fisher.

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    Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote: #12

    .300/.400/.500 in his minor league career at age appropriate levels.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote: #12

    Fisher throws ground balls, which is great, and in time he could turn out as a back-of-rotation guy in the major leagues, but in terms of starting pitchers I think Watson and Thompson would be higher on my list. I also think Pelland and Viola are worthy of consideration for the top 20.

    My own opinion is that Fisher belongs in the 20-25 range. He'll turn 25 before next season. He had a 1.49 WHIP at AA. He easily mastered both low and high A levels, but he had a lot of AA innings and was quite hittable.

    Doug, you might consider Jordan Smith, Marcus Macbeth and Rafael Gonzalez for the next round.
    Last edited by Kc61; 12-03-2007 at 03:45 PM.

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    Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote: #12

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    I don't see Fisher in the top twenty, perhaps in the 20-25 range. He'll be 25 before next season starts and he had a 1.49 WHIP at AA. He easily mastered both low and high A levels, but he had a lot of AA innings and was quite hittable.

    He throws ground balls, which is great, and in time he could turn out as a back-of-rotation guy in the major leagues, but in terms of starting pitchers I think Watson and Thompson would be higher on my list.
    In his defense, he had made comments about having a tired arm after 5 or 6 starts in AA and he just kept on pitching. I don't have him this high right now, but he has pretty solid stuff.

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    Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote: #12

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    In his defense, he had made comments about having a tired arm after 5 or 6 starts in AA and he just kept on pitching. I don't have him this high right now, but he has pretty solid stuff.

    I will say, to his credit, that early last season the guy seemed like a possible top ten prospect. He was lights out early. But when a starter has this much trouble with AA, he has a lot to prove.

    Hope Fisher does have a great '08 because he is the kind of pitcher who could succeed in GABP and other cozy environs.

    Also, Lecure's numbers at AA were quite good. He also falls in this group and may compare favorably to some of the others. I think he is top twenty in the system.
    Last edited by Kc61; 12-03-2007 at 03:58 PM.

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    Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote: #12

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Doug, you might consider Jordan Smith, Marcus Macbeth and Rafael Gonzalez for the next round.
    Quoting this just so I don't miss it while making the next poll.

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    Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote: #12

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Fisher throws ground balls, which is great, and in time he could turn out as a back-of-rotation guy in the major leagues, but in terms of starting pitchers I think Watson and Thompson would be higher on my list. I also think Pelland and Viola are worthy of consideration for the top 20.

    My own opinion is that Fisher belongs in the 20-25 range. He'll turn 25 before next season. He had a 1.49 WHIP at AA. He easily mastered both low and high A levels, but he had a lot of AA innings and was quite hittable.

    Doug, you might consider Jordan Smith, Marcus Macbeth and Rafael Gonzalez for the next round.
    Is Marcus McBeth still a prospect? He spent some time in Cincinnati last year.

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    Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote: #12

    Quote Originally Posted by AmarilloRed View Post
    Is Marcus McBeth still a prospect? He spent some time in Cincinnati last year.
    He still qualifies as a rookie, so yes.

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    Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote: #12

    It may seem silly to some, that I keep voting for Sam LeCure.

    Well, it seems no more silly to me than Devin Mesoraco being voted into the top ten.


    It's more of what we hope will happen than what will actually happen at this point.
    Last edited by Ron Madden; 12-04-2007 at 04:26 AM.

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    Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote: #12

    Once again I went with Waring. I just personally don't see the potential of some of these guys. I hope I'm wrong.
    If you can't build a winning team with that core a fire-sale isn't the solution. Selling the franchise, moving them to Nashville and converting GABP into a used car lot is.
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