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    Reds Offered Hamilton for Willis

    http://florida.marlins.mlb.com/news/...=.jsp&c_id=fla

    Before the Marlins added Dontrelle Willis to Wednesday\'s trade with Detroit, they explored dealing the D-Train to the Reds.

    In that package, Florida would have received outfielder Josh Hamilton
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    Re: Reds Offered Hamilton for Willis

    I would have been VERY upset with that trade.

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    Re: Reds Offered Hamilton for Willis

    That would have been something of a bummer.
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    Re: Reds Offered Hamilton for Willis

    Whatever good vibes I had going from the Cordero signing would been destroyed had the Marlins jumped on that deal. Bad Wayne!

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    Re: Reds Offered Hamilton for Willis

    Thank the Tigers for stepping in and saving "Krivdawg" embarrasement.

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    Re: Reds Offered Hamilton for Willis

    The thread heading says that the Reds "offered" Hamilton. The quote doesn't say that. It says that the deal was explored.

    It may have been the Marlins who suggested such a deal with the Reds saying no.

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    Re: Reds Offered Hamilton for Willis

    I don't know. I think I would have been fine with that deal.

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    Re: Reds Offered Hamilton for Willis

    What does this potentially show us?

    The Reds aren't hesitant about upping the payroll even more if they identify a piece that they covet (whether or not they SHOULD be coveting that piece is a different question).
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    Re: Reds Offered Hamilton for Willis

    Time for me to make my own rumor.

    Before the Marlins added Dontrelle Willis to Wednesday\'s trade with Detroit, they explored dealing the D-Train to the Reds.

    In that package, Florida would have received outfielder Josh Hamilton.
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    On his reaction to the Florida-Detroit trade: \"Damn. My wife grew up with Dontrelle (Willis\') aunt. He\'s from the Bay Area. We could have rode to spring training together.\"
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    Is it imperative that Reds add a starting pitcher? \"Well, imperative, I\'d sure like to have one. . . or maybe even two, or hopefully one of the kids will develop and mature over the winter. And like we used to say with the Dodgers, we\'re always looking for a surprise pitcher who falls out of the sky, that gets it together -- whether it\'s someone in the Rule 5 Draft or a guy who was injured last year or a young man who went to Winter Ball and picked up another pitch.\"
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    --Does he see a deal happening? \"We\'re trying. We\'re trying every day. This is probably the most activity I\'ve seen at the Winter Meetings in a long time.\"
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    Interesting fallout from the Marlins-Tigers deal. The Mets tried to get Dontrelle Willis from the Marlins, but Florida wouldn’t trade him to their division rival (I hate to call a team that waves the white flag like this a rival, but whatever).

    Detroit was looking at spinning off Willis in a separate deal and made contact with the Mets. However, the Tigers have an agenda---they need to dump some salary. They asked the Mets to take Willis and Ivan Rodriguez, who is due $13 million next year. The other thing to consider is that Pudge has a no-trade clause, so if he’s going to waive that you’d probably have to give him an extension.
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    The possibility of the Reds still making a run at Willis through the Tigers.

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    Re: Reds Offered Hamilton for Willis

    I will take Willis in the rotation.... if we give up someone who ranks out as a C+/C type prospect (think Carlos Fisher or Sam Lecure). That is the most talent I would give up given his season last year and his salary this year.

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    Re: Reds Offered Hamilton for Willis

    I doubt it was a one-for-one trade . . . The Reds probably would have received Willis + prospects.

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    Re: Reds Offered Hamilton for Willis

    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    I doubt it was a one-for-one trade . . . The Reds probably would have received Willis + prospects.
    I highly doubt that
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    Re: Reds Offered Hamilton for Willis

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    The thread heading says that the Reds "offered" Hamilton. The quote doesn't say that. It says that the deal was explored.

    It may have been the Marlins who suggested such a deal with the Reds saying no.
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    Re: Reds Offered Hamilton for Willis

    Quote Originally Posted by WilyMoROCKS View Post
    What does this potentially show us?
    The Reds have no ability to evaluate pitchers?
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    Re: Reds Offered Hamilton for Willis

    Willis may very well have pitched his best baseball, but last year is at this point an aberration on his resume. I think Hamilton and Willis straight up would have been a reasonable deal from a past performance, talent and potential perspective.


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