Yeah, if Bailey and Votto would get the deal done, it would have happened already, IMO. From the original reports, they want big time offesne in return. Votto is good, but I don't think he's considered a big time offense player in the minds of most organization. He'll be above average, but if the O's truly wanted to get significant offense in return, I doubt Votto is the guy that gets it done. Hamilton, maybe. Bruce, probably. But Votto, I"d have to say no. If the talks are truly on going, my speculation would be that they want Bruce and are holding out for him.